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Old 08-01-2016, 07:30 AM
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It all started after I parked my bike at a grocery store, picked up some beer and steak then returned to my bike. Problems began after I almost took off with the kickstand down. As soon as I get a few blocks away she starts idling rough and sputtering, like its misfiring or some kind of limp mode. Finally she dies on me. I pulled over and checked around the bike and could not see anything immediately wrong. Doesn't even show a code. She cranks up fine and I managed to get her home.

I let her sit for a day and proceeded to turn her on and everything seemed fine, she was idling normally and not sputtering anymore. This morning heading to work I noticed something was not right, the idle seemed funny, like it was struggling to keep the engine running. I get right to the point that I park and she starts sputtering and wanting to shut off, finally she just quit. Gave off an overwhelming spell of unburnt gas.

Weird thing is I changed just about everything that would normally cause an idle problem (IAC, TPS, Ambien Air Sensor, etc.) before when I had another idle issue where she would idle high and was running rich. Turned out to be the pesky engine temperature sensor.

I don't know what it could be but maybe the forum can help me figure out this problem.

She is a 2011 Wide Glide with 17K on it, Screaming Eagle Heavy Breather, and Powercommander V
 
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:47 AM
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Have you pulled the breather and checked the filter? Only reason I bring this up is because I just did a few hour trip last weekend and got caught in thunderstorms, it was so bad that I was sucking in water through the a/c, I could only keep the throttle cracked slightly to keep it from stalling out on me.
 
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hitman1267
It all started after I parked my bike at a grocery store, picked up some beer and steak then returned to my bike. Problems began after I almost took off with the kickstand down. As soon as I get a few blocks away she starts idling rough and sputtering, like its misfiring or some kind of limp mode. Finally she dies on me. I pulled over and checked around the bike and could not see anything immediately wrong. Doesn't even show a code. She cranks up fine and I managed to get her home.

I let her sit for a day and proceeded to turn her on and everything seemed fine, she was idling normally and not sputtering anymore. This morning heading to work I noticed something was not right, the idle seemed funny, like it was struggling to keep the engine running. I get right to the point that I park and she starts sputtering and wanting to shut off, finally she just quit. Gave off an overwhelming spell of unburnt gas.

Weird thing is I changed just about everything that would normally cause an idle problem (IAC, TPS, Ambien Air Sensor, etc.) before when I had another idle issue where she would idle high and was running rich. Turned out to be the pesky engine temperature sensor.

I don't know what it could be but maybe the forum can help me figure out this problem.

She is a 2011 Wide Glide with 17K on it, Screaming Eagle Heavy Breather, and Powercommander V
Pull your power commander and run it without. If it runs decent, that's your issue. They have been known to have connection issues...
 
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Old 08-01-2016, 12:26 PM
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When was the last time the fuel filter was replaced? Have you checked for pinholes in the internal fuel line?
 
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Something else to check would be for an exhaust or intake leak,, they can be fine when the motor is cold, but then leak on warm up
 
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Great guys all great ideas, I ride the bike in the rain and I could see how there could be a lot of water in there. I have not changed the fuel filter and I'll check the power commander.
 
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I had symptoms exactly as you have described and it was the engine temperature sensor. I have been told by more than one competent HD Service Manager that a failing Power Commander will cause that as well.
Always keen for a free fix, I called them and hooked up to my PC-V online for them to look at. They re-loaded the firmware into the PC V and then re- loadeded the map I had. But the bike still missed out. Those guys are great to work with and are happy to look at it online for you.
So then I replaced the sensor---$38 --about 20 minutes.
Never run better.
 
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Originally Posted by Skogdog
I had symptoms exactly as you have described and it was the engine temperature sensor. I have been told by more than one competent HD Service Manager that a failing Power Commander will cause that as well.
Always keen for a free fix, I called them and hooked up to my PC-V online for them to look at. They re-loaded the firmware into the PC V and then re- loadeded the map I had. But the bike still missed out. Those guys are great to work with and are happy to look at it online for you.
So then I replaced the sensor---$38 --about 20 minutes.
Never run better.
I've already replaced the engine temperature and she was running great after that. Yesterday I did the "smoke test on the front cylinder and i did notice a leak. The front cylinder is firing but with significantly less pressure than the rear cylinder.
 
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Behind the backing plate for the air cleaner you'll find a small black rubber tube that connects to a vacuum port on top of the throttle body. Check to see if it has come off or has developed a split in it.
 
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and.............I found a big *** exhaust leak from the front cylinder. Ill be changing the studs, gasket and nuts for this one. I'll post the update when I conduct the repairs.
 
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