Michelin Scorcher Tire VS Commander?
2014 Harley Low Rider w/5700 miles on it.
Michelin Scorcher 31 tire on the rear has significant wear and will be replaced soon.
This is my first bike so I have NO experience w/any other tires. I liked the tire but not satisfied w/wear. Was considering Commander 2 but hearing reports of tires being slippery during an initial break in period and not as grippy as the Scorcher, assuming due to harder compound as relates to better mileage.
Opinions?
Michelin Scorcher 31 tire on the rear has significant wear and will be replaced soon.
This is my first bike so I have NO experience w/any other tires. I liked the tire but not satisfied w/wear. Was considering Commander 2 but hearing reports of tires being slippery during an initial break in period and not as grippy as the Scorcher, assuming due to harder compound as relates to better mileage.
Opinions?
Bridgestones suck **** through straws. Tried a set on a my Sportster years ago & you could never predict when they were about to attempt to put you on yer ***. The Bridgestones that came stock on my old ZRX sucked *****, as well- dead feeling, numb & no warning when they were about to let go.
I had Scorchers on my 2011 FXDB from new, rode them bald (Rear. Front still had some tread), then swapped them for Commander IIs.
While the CII's seemed an incredible improvement over the Scorchers, 90% (more probably) of that improvement was due to comparing a new tire v old/bald/squared off tire.
That said, even when fairly new I thought the rear Scorcher was unreasonably squirelly in the wet (ie would lose traction when taking off from lights etc). The CIIs have acceptable traction in similar circs.
Handling etc is fine (as were the Scorchers). So far (8,000km in), wear seems minimal, and they are quiet.
While the CII's seemed an incredible improvement over the Scorchers, 90% (more probably) of that improvement was due to comparing a new tire v old/bald/squared off tire.
That said, even when fairly new I thought the rear Scorcher was unreasonably squirelly in the wet (ie would lose traction when taking off from lights etc). The CIIs have acceptable traction in similar circs.
Handling etc is fine (as were the Scorchers). So far (8,000km in), wear seems minimal, and they are quiet.
I have the 14 Low Rider and I am going to try the Commander 2's next. I have close to 6,000 on my stock Scorcher 31's and my rear will be due in about 1000 miles. I find the buzz when cornering in town annoying as well. At first I thought there was something wrong with the bike until I figured out it was the tread pattern on the front tire that was doing it. The price on the Commander's is less than the Scorchers too, I can replace the front and rear with them for the price of just the rear with the Scorchers.
Had the Scorchers, replaced them with Commander II (both ends). 5000 miles or so on the CIIs and still going strong. Haven't noticed a huge difference in performance but mileage-wise the CIIs are, um, miles ahead.
I bought mine in Perth (west coast Australia), then immediately rode 3000 miles across the country so it got a little squared off in the process (flat country, lots of straight roads). It seems to be no worse now after doing that nearly distance again in typical mixed city/country riding.
I bought mine in Perth (west coast Australia), then immediately rode 3000 miles across the country so it got a little squared off in the process (flat country, lots of straight roads). It seems to be no worse now after doing that nearly distance again in typical mixed city/country riding.
my bike came with the scorchers, 5000mi later I replaced the rear with a commander II. I've had the commander II's on another bike as well, and they're fair in the rain not as good as a Shinko 777. But overall they're good tires that ride nice, handle good most of the time, and do get pretty good mileage. Only thing I've found that I dont like about the commander II's is traction lacks, and once you get about 1/2 tread or less they start slide out a lot when taking slow speed corners with some acceleration like left handers from a stop light or yield turns at a stop light or sign. (the scorchers did same thing as well)
With about 5500mi on my commander II I replaced it and the OEM scorcher on the front of my bike (scorcher had 10,500mi at this point) while both could have went another 500-1000mi easy, I was replacing my wheels and I went with the Pirelli Night Dragons, IMO the Night Dragons are a much better tire if you're a more performance oriented rider and take twisties scraping pegs and doing so at higher MPH than the suggested speed for the corners. They have better traction, equal ride comfort to the Commander II's, and I'm thinking better mileage. The night dragons do hold traction much better, and thats easy to see when I can pop my front wheel off the ground and couldnt with the commander II that would spin, and with 3000+ mi on them so far they still look to be in great shape even after some burnouts crossing 4-way stops and I'd venture to say the rear will easily last another 5k miles. I wont be switching back to Michelin's once the Pirelli night dragons wear out.
With about 5500mi on my commander II I replaced it and the OEM scorcher on the front of my bike (scorcher had 10,500mi at this point) while both could have went another 500-1000mi easy, I was replacing my wheels and I went with the Pirelli Night Dragons, IMO the Night Dragons are a much better tire if you're a more performance oriented rider and take twisties scraping pegs and doing so at higher MPH than the suggested speed for the corners. They have better traction, equal ride comfort to the Commander II's, and I'm thinking better mileage. The night dragons do hold traction much better, and thats easy to see when I can pop my front wheel off the ground and couldnt with the commander II that would spin, and with 3000+ mi on them so far they still look to be in great shape even after some burnouts crossing 4-way stops and I'd venture to say the rear will easily last another 5k miles. I wont be switching back to Michelin's once the Pirelli night dragons wear out.
I have the 14 Low Rider and I am going to try the Commander 2's next. I have close to 6,000 on my stock Scorcher 31's and my rear will be due in about 1000 miles. I find the buzz when cornering in town annoying as well. At first I thought there was something wrong with the bike until I figured out it was the tread pattern on the front tire that was doing it. The price on the Commander's is less than the Scorchers too, I can replace the front and rear with them for the price of just the rear with the Scorchers.
Don't know about the dun-a-laps but have had both Scorcher and Commander II's and it is not even debatable. The Commander II's hands down the best. I've had mine for a little over four years and seventeen thousand miles and they still have deep tread depth.
my bike came with the scorchers, 5000mi later I replaced the rear with a commander II. I've had the commander II's on another bike as well, and they're fair in the rain not as good as a Shinko 777. But overall they're good tires that ride nice, handle good most of the time, and do get pretty good mileage. Only thing I've found that I dont like about the commander II's is traction lacks, and once you get about 1/2 tread or less they start slide out a lot when taking slow speed corners with some acceleration like left handers from a stop light or yield turns at a stop light or sign. (the scorchers did same thing as well)
With about 5500mi on my commander II I replaced it and the OEM scorcher on the front of my bike (scorcher had 10,500mi at this point) while both could have went another 500-1000mi easy, I was replacing my wheels and I went with the Pirelli Night Dragons, IMO the Night Dragons are a much better tire if you're a more performance oriented rider and take twisties scraping pegs and doing so at higher MPH than the suggested speed for the corners. They have better traction, equal ride comfort to the Commander II's, and I'm thinking better mileage. The night dragons do hold traction much better, and thats easy to see when I can pop my front wheel off the ground and couldnt with the commander II that would spin, and with 3000+ mi on them so far they still look to be in great shape even after some burnouts crossing 4-way stops and I'd venture to say the rear will easily last another 5k miles. I wont be switching back to Michelin's once the Pirelli night dragons wear out.
With about 5500mi on my commander II I replaced it and the OEM scorcher on the front of my bike (scorcher had 10,500mi at this point) while both could have went another 500-1000mi easy, I was replacing my wheels and I went with the Pirelli Night Dragons, IMO the Night Dragons are a much better tire if you're a more performance oriented rider and take twisties scraping pegs and doing so at higher MPH than the suggested speed for the corners. They have better traction, equal ride comfort to the Commander II's, and I'm thinking better mileage. The night dragons do hold traction much better, and thats easy to see when I can pop my front wheel off the ground and couldnt with the commander II that would spin, and with 3000+ mi on them so far they still look to be in great shape even after some burnouts crossing 4-way stops and I'd venture to say the rear will easily last another 5k miles. I wont be switching back to Michelin's once the Pirelli night dragons wear out.
I have used both on my wide glide. It came with the scorchers and I replaced them with commander IIs when they wore out. They are both good tires but in my opinion the commanders are a little better. They have lasted longer and have slightly better traction in wet conditions.
ETA: the scorchers had 8,000 miles on them when I replaced them and my bike now has 20,000 miles on it so the commanders have 12,000 miles on them and still have a good amount of tread left.
ETA: the scorchers had 8,000 miles on them when I replaced them and my bike now has 20,000 miles on it so the commanders have 12,000 miles on them and still have a good amount of tread left.
Last edited by AFDynaRider; Dec 18, 2015 at 08:38 PM.








