Brand New Harley here! Exhaust Question
Ok I'd like to clear it up. I'm hearing two seperate answers. Will I lose low end with a full stage one with 2-2 pipes? I do understand the motor is tuned lean for emissions. It feels "choked" down when I ride in my opinion. Normally loud pipes give you the mental hp gain anyways lol. I'm not gonna be a dyno number junkie or anything. I just hate to flatten my lowend out when I never really rev above 3500 for my regular daily driving.
If you do a 2-2 pipe like you mentioned, you won't gain as much torque as you would with a 2-1, but the net increase in torque and HP is still more than you have now.
By the way, the difference between a 2-2 and 2-1 isn't massive amounts of torque or horsepower. The torque difference may be as much as 3 ft/lbs. A stage 1 103 still puts out gobbs of torque regardless of the 2-1 Vs. 2-2 argument.
If you're concerned about mileage, throw it all out the window and stay stock. You won't get 50mpg with a stage 1.
I also have a brand new Dyna and my local "wrench" told me, "If you are changing the pipes (Thunderheader for me), air cleaner, tune and Dyno you are wasting money if you do not change the cams". Total bill will be approximately $2500-2800 for the above.
As I just spent a lot of CASH on the bike, windshield, backrest and rack (and labor for relocation kit) I am almost decided to spend $175 on Cycle Shack slip ons and ride with them until next Spring. They will give me more aural horsepower and my wallet will have a chance to stop hemoraging.
As I just spent a lot of CASH on the bike, windshield, backrest and rack (and labor for relocation kit) I am almost decided to spend $175 on Cycle Shack slip ons and ride with them until next Spring. They will give me more aural horsepower and my wallet will have a chance to stop hemoraging.
I also have a brand new Dyna and my local "wrench" told me, "If you are changing the pipes (Thunderheader for me), air cleaner, tune and Dyno you are wasting money if you do not change the cams". Total bill will be approximately $2500-2800 for the above.
As I just spent a lot of CASH on the bike, windshield, backrest and rack (and labor for relocation kit) I am almost decided to spend $175 on Cycle Shack slip ons and ride with them until next Spring. They will give me more aural horsepower and my wallet will have a chance to stop hemoraging.
As I just spent a lot of CASH on the bike, windshield, backrest and rack (and labor for relocation kit) I am almost decided to spend $175 on Cycle Shack slip ons and ride with them until next Spring. They will give me more aural horsepower and my wallet will have a chance to stop hemoraging.
My man's justification for skipping Stage 1 and going directly to Stage 2 is to ultimately save money by doing the same thing twice such as removale and replalacement of pipes and the Dyno tuning, which has to be done again after changing the cams and does take $$ time$$..
They will give me more aural horsepower and my wallet will have a chance to stop hemoraging.
Hey Rooti I see an older picture shows what look like Cycle Shacks. Is that true? What did you do with them? What other work did you do with the Pro Pipe? They do sound awesome (The Pro Pipe)
They were rush slip ons with 2.25 baffles. They sounded awesome but didn't do anything for performance. I had the chance to have my bike dynotuned by one of the best so I opted to do the propipe before the tune.
I sold the slip ons for half price here. Goes to show to spend the money right the first time or you pay twice.
The bike runs so much better then when I bought it new. I was not happy with the way it ran stock. Wasn't the power, it was the smoothness. Dyno tuning is the way to go if you are close to a good tuner. You will find that the phrase "auto tune" is very misleading on some of these tuners. I use a TTS tuner and you can tune it yourself but it still takes some trial and error and you won't get it to 100%
I sold the slip ons for half price here. Goes to show to spend the money right the first time or you pay twice.
The bike runs so much better then when I bought it new. I was not happy with the way it ran stock. Wasn't the power, it was the smoothness. Dyno tuning is the way to go if you are close to a good tuner. You will find that the phrase "auto tune" is very misleading on some of these tuners. I use a TTS tuner and you can tune it yourself but it still takes some trial and error and you won't get it to 100%
I have a GREAT tuner who Dyno'd my previous Road King and converted it to a real fun bike to ride. HE is the guy telling me to do the cams along with the 2:1. He said I should use either Bassani, Thunder Header, D and D or V & H Pro Pipe. I like the Pro Pipe but until seeing the picture of yours thought they were too wide at the end, It looks good on your bike. What air cleaner do you have?






