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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 05:14 AM
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additional thread for speedo topic
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...-shut-off.html
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 05:18 AM
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"I had the EXACT same problem on my '01 Ultra too. After a dealer failed to diagnose the problem I took it to an indy. Turned out to be a broken wire inside the main overlay harness. The wire was broken at the area in front of the gas tank, right where it runs along the frame and steering neck. Other riders have had other wires break causing other electrical problems.

Using a multimeter, they checked continuity in small increments starting from the back of the speedo and working down. They checked the three wires (red, black, and white) that run from the VSS in the tranny. Mine was a red wire."
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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Swensos,

It was my mistake to bring my issue to a thread that I now realize is about digital speedo issues. I'm talking about old fashion cable drives and mechanical speedos.

Your info is a great suggestion of where to start checking for "digital speedos" that only use electric impulses to translate to MPH. I've heard about the senders collecting debris on their magnet and that loss of information impacts the whole bike.

I'm not sure when Harley changed.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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Non-electriconic speedometers use a magnet that rotates and as it goes by a little piece of metal attached to the needle it pulls it along with it. The faster it goes, the more times it pulls on the needle causing it to rise. That is a very simple explanation of how the average mechanical speedometer works. There is a little more to it, but that's the basics.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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John, Good to see you on the boards today.

Any guesses on my issue ... oh wise one?

Lubricate the head units "mechanisms maybe? What to use?

(John sold me on the Crane HI4E and had a good deal for me. I consider him to be my first new friend here)
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyC
In my case I wouldn't think a new cable would require lube ... Am I wrong?
Never assume. Pull the inner cable out of the sheath and lube generously with anti seize, then reinsert into sheath. The smoothest route between driver and head is best, the fewer bends the better. Put new cable into the drive first, then route up to the head. Make sure the inner cable is completely seated into the drive, then attach at the head. Try not to cinch the cable down anywhere.

Speedo heads sometimes go bad too, but it's more often a cable or drive issue.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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My Indy cleaned magnet thinking that was the issue.. still works when it wants to.. Just got a new mechanic for some performance work in the spring.. we'll see if he can tackle the speedo issue.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by swensos
My Indy cleaned magnet thinking that was the issue.. still works when it wants to.. Just got a new mechanic for some performance work in the spring.. we'll see if he can tackle the speedo issue.
I was talking about the mechanical speedo, there is a magnet in the speedo that the cable spins, that in turn moves the needle. If you cleaned the magnetic pickup in the tranny, then it's either the speedo, or wires. Your dealer has a tester that can check out the speedo head. It shouldn't cost much as it only take less than a half hour.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyC
John, Good to see you on the boards today.

Any guesses on my issue ... oh wise one?

Lubricate the head units "mechanisms maybe? What to use?

(John sold me on the Crane HI4E and had a good deal for me. I consider him to be my first new friend here)
Take a variable speed cordless drill with a #2 Square dive bit and slowly turn the speedo with it. Vary the speed and the needle should move accordingly. If memory serves me it has to be in reverse. Inspect the outer cable sheath for kinks, bends, or any other odd looking areas. Push the inner cable in and try to turn it, you should feel resistance. Then pull the cable up about 1" and try to turn it. It should turn, if not then you need to replace the cable. If it passes all of these tests then the inner and outer should be fine, remove the inner cable and clean it and lube it with either never-Sieze or a dry-slide type lubricant. The ends of the inner cable should be square, the rest should be round and not frayed.
Put it back together and push the inner in and turn it until it seats in the sender. Now lift the front wheel up and turn it, the inner cable should rotate.Hope this helps!
 
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Old Jan 14, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Was the cable on my '91 FLHS ( mechanical speedo). Up and down my driveway after some work done and reassembly ( 100 yds.) in the winter speedo didn't work so put new cable on that was too long. Started binding up when finally riding so took speedo to shop and it was fine. Put correct cable on and it now even registers at low speeds; no lube on new cable other than what it came with.
 
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