Navy WLA?
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From: Cumming, GA
Sorry, not claiming it is Navy - I've only had it for 2 days and I'm trying to figure out what it is.
It is a really light grey color and I can't find evidence of any previous color.
With no engine serial number, I really don't know much about it.
The engine has some olive drab on it, but it is possible/likely that it is not the original engine.
It is a really light grey color and I can't find evidence of any previous color.
With no engine serial number, I really don't know much about it.
The engine has some olive drab on it, but it is possible/likely that it is not the original engine.
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From: la la land jerzey
on the bottoms of the engine block it has production machining matching numbers post up pictures of those speeding big twin will be able to ID what years time frame possibly you are in
the frame rear axle plates have letters and numbers different both sides post what they are if pictures are not good to read - year can be narrowed down with that
the frame rear axle plates have letters and numbers different both sides post what they are if pictures are not good to read - year can be narrowed down with that
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Frame may be a 1943 model. Left side of steering head has forging number ZE-35T. Forging hallmark looks like A (?) and that type of hallmark is sometimes referred to as 'A in a jar'. It represents AmForge, Chicago, Illinois. Die number looks like 8 and helps indicate a 1943 steering head according to Bruce Palmers resto book. (Also used for 1943 were die numbers 7, 9 and 10.)
R-H side of the steering head appears to have the number 3 but I dont know what it indicates.
Left axle clip has forging hallmark M over F in a circle indicating Modern Drop Forge in Illinois. Forging number is SE-7T. Die number looks like 4? If so it indicates 194243.
R-H axle clip has forging hallmark M over F in a circle (upside down) indicating Modern Drop Forge in Illinois. I cant read the entire forging number but I imagine it is SE-6T? Die number looks upside down and it may be 5? If so it indicates 194344.
BTW, the trans case may have casting ID under the filler spout. You may find casting number 121-41 which was first used for 1941 models. Also under the spout may be a casting date code.
Eric
R-H side of the steering head appears to have the number 3 but I dont know what it indicates.
Left axle clip has forging hallmark M over F in a circle indicating Modern Drop Forge in Illinois. Forging number is SE-7T. Die number looks like 4? If so it indicates 194243.
R-H axle clip has forging hallmark M over F in a circle (upside down) indicating Modern Drop Forge in Illinois. I cant read the entire forging number but I imagine it is SE-6T? Die number looks upside down and it may be 5? If so it indicates 194344.
BTW, the trans case may have casting ID under the filler spout. You may find casting number 121-41 which was first used for 1941 models. Also under the spout may be a casting date code.
Eric
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Eric,
Thanks for your analysis!
I'm thinking this information bolsters the chance that the engine and the frame were never married and could be replacement parts?
The engine has no proper VIN, it is well used and probably sat in a wet environment for a while - evidenced by the belly corrosion.
The frame has only surface rust. It has a very light dull grey coating. Not sure if it is primer or a finish coat, but there is no evidence of ever having another color.
I'll try to look at the trans number today. No helpers here and I don't want it to fall off of the table.
It is what it is and you get what you pay for!
Thanks again!
terry
Thanks for your analysis!
I'm thinking this information bolsters the chance that the engine and the frame were never married and could be replacement parts?
The engine has no proper VIN, it is well used and probably sat in a wet environment for a while - evidenced by the belly corrosion.
The frame has only surface rust. It has a very light dull grey coating. Not sure if it is primer or a finish coat, but there is no evidence of ever having another color.
I'll try to look at the trans number today. No helpers here and I don't want it to fall off of the table.
It is what it is and you get what you pay for!
Thanks again!
terry
Last edited by tasturbo86; Mar 14, 2020 at 08:36 AM. Reason: additional info
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You're welcome Terry. I agree the engine and frame are not original to each other. As mentioned in your other thread, many engines were not stamped with a serial number and that may be one of them.
Heres another case with a blank number boss, this time from Jan 1945.
Date code is A 5 (spaced).
Eric
Heres another case with a blank number boss, this time from Jan 1945.
Date code is A 5 (spaced).
Eric
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