Originally Posted by ChrisHo

Indian is going that route, some are hoping the T111 is being kept but its not a guarantee.

I really would love to see a new chassis under the touring line, they are really porky and could stand to lose five to ten percent of their weight. I have high hopes for Harley's new line of engines, really gives them an opportunity to try new model types without alienating the existing base. They can both exist side by side.

2020 is shaping up to be an amazing year with Harley, BMW, and Indian, all making big moves.

Originally Posted by P51Driver

No more 1200 Sportster Custom

Originally Posted by daniel.sm

Since we're a few weeks away from the release for the 2020 MY (aug 20-21) let's try to group in a single thread all the rumors that we've been hearing.

I'm going to start with all I've heard/read, please, refrain from making jokes ("vivid black will return") as we are trying to group the information.

1- A Sportster family whole overhaul (and I've heard they're in doubt of keeping the Sportster name)
2- Dropping M-8 107 in favor of M-8 114.
3- Touring line receiving a new monoshock frame
4- No more "Ultra" touring models....it will only exist the "Limited" trim - RGU would be transitioned to RG Limited
5- Heritage Classic becoming chromed again
6- A new "standard" touring model to take the place of both EG Standard and RK (you would be able to choose the batwing or a windshield....detachable??)
7- Street family would be dropped all along

And the obvious one is the release of the 1st bike of the upcoming Electric Family with the LiveWire.

Did anyone hear something more or different??

Originally Posted by tbob

Only thing that has changed from a 2007 SG and 2019 SG is they painted the chrome, bigger engine and fancy radio, that SG in 2007 was $16,500 and the 2019 is $28,000 ,Stay in the HD game long enough you will find the biggest change is the price from year to year. The good old pan motor would take me to the tavern just as fast as the fancy new M8.

Originally Posted by daniel.sm

I'm partial to say anything about the Sportster because I do love 'em (since I've got one) and feel that they are marvelous machines....but on a rational side, the engine won't live much longer due to emissions....(and I ain't selling mine)

Originally Posted by upflying

Vivid Black will be available on the 2020 models.

Originally Posted by Xcrossbow

Saw on another thread but didn't see it mentioned here, the possibility of blackened models for the full blown tour pack bikes.

Originally Posted by not a sock

I sure hope NOT!!
The awful all Black models don't sell as well as the near Chrome ones......