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Doing what? We don't know what they were doing or what exactly took place. Just a vague article reporting about a guy crashing a trike at a dealer. It's like those articles that always say, 'The rider was not wearing a helmet when he died.' but provides no info about whether or not a helmet, or lack thereof, had anything to do with it Originally Posted by hardheaded
Why would you be doing this smack in the front of the dealership ? They should have been out back in a big parking lot away from everything.
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Last time I was there (over 15 years ago) that dealer had added every accessory to every bike in the showroom. I asked a salesman about some used police bikes that were near the shop. He said they aren't for sale yet because they had accessorized them. I asked about price on a stock bike. He laughed, told me that they don't sell stock bikes. According to him the lowest price bike they had was an $18k Sportster.
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......guessing the dealership "waived" his mandatory watching of the 10min trike video.
.....or maybe he still watched it and had no clue what he was doing. Guess no 10min video is going to train you how to ride if you plain just don't know how to ride.
saw something similar to this a couple of years ago at a Harley demo days. Guy almost crashed a trike and luckily he got it stopped and pulled immediately off of it. Was the end of his "demo day". Some people are best to operate cages.
.....or maybe he still watched it and had no clue what he was doing. Guess no 10min video is going to train you how to ride if you plain just don't know how to ride.
saw something similar to this a couple of years ago at a Harley demo days. Guy almost crashed a trike and luckily he got it stopped and pulled immediately off of it. Was the end of his "demo day". Some people are best to operate cages.
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Some folks just can't get over their nerves, and continually mess up with the clutch and throttle. Sometimes coming back for another class will help enough, but not always. And we had one gal we had to feel sorry for; she just didn't have the strength in her left hand to hold the clutch in the friction zone for more than a few seconds. Sitting still in first gear, she'd reach over with her right hand, to hold the clutch lever back with both hands. It didn't help that she had small hands, and couldn't grip the lever close to the outside end, to get the increased mechanical advantage there.Originally Posted by MiniWolf
MSF instructors usually have good stories to tell and are a good source of info in this area. I have asked before how many people fail out of the basic riders course when just starting out. The answer was it is usually not a matter of someone outright failing to master the basic skills but just needing more time and being asked to return. They might fail the skills test or just show they need more work when the class wraps up. But they get asked to return another date and when they get a little more instruction and retake the test, they usually pass. Some just need more time. Everyone comes from different backgrounds. Some have never even sat on a bike before. Some already have ridden. The only people they much tell they should pick another activity are those who are an obvious safety risk or those who are too timid. In the latter case, the student usually agrees with the instructor that the activity is just not for them and they just hang it up. This is coming from those who work with newcomers. In fact, my MSF instructor friend has stated the only student she ever outright booted from the class wasn't a student who was in over their head but a very experienced rider. He never got his license and was pulled over one day and his bike towed. He was taking the class to get his license in lieu of going to the BMV for all the testing. First day of riding, he was cocky and arrogant.kept ignoring instructions about keeping speeds in check on the range, showing off to other students etc...Eventually they had enough and the instructors in the class got together and told him to.get off the range and don't come back to the facility in the future.
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For a lot of people, just riding a motorcycle can be a bit intimidating at first because the commonly held view that circulates among most people out there is that it's way too dangerous an activity for anyone-- it's a given that you're going to quickly die or end up a cripple etc...When people find out your ride a motorcycle or are thinking about taking it up, they like to tell you horror stories about cousin Jim or whoever who ended up a quadriplegic a month after he started riding. This common perception and sense of dread that most people have about motorcycles is going to create some anxiety for a lot of people new to riding. Add in learning to operate a clutch and all the other nuances and some people might find it hard to get comfortable.Originally Posted by cficole
Some folks just can't get over their nerves, and continually mess up with the clutch and throttle. Sometimes coming back for another class will help enough, but not always. And we had one gal we had to feel sorry for; she just didn't have the strength in her left hand to hold the clutch in the friction zone for more than a few seconds. Sitting still in first gear, she'd reach over with her right hand, to hold the clutch lever back with both hands. It didn't help that she had small hands, and couldn't grip the lever close to the outside end, to get the increased mechanical advantage there.
I think the key is just learning to know your limits. We all have them. Sometimes you just have to listen to your gut instincts when its telling you that maybe this isn't a good idea. e.g...If everyone else in your group is going mach schnell down the highway and you're not comfortable with it, just don't do it. A lot of people probably get into trouble when they ignore their instincts. I once saw a new rider dump a brand new Street Glide in the dealer lot. Dealers heavily market the bikes to folks who finish the Harley MSF equivalent Basic Riders course at the dealer. Nothing wrong with that but some folks probably are getting in over their head by going out and buying a Street Glide or Ultra right after taking the course and not having much in the way of street experience. Was eating a post charity ride lunch when a guy was at the dealer picking up his bike. Wife or girlfriend drove him out and they were going over the typical operating instructions with the sales guy etc, It comes time for him to head out and he clearly is a bit shaky. Looks around nervously at people watching him. Stalls the bike trying to start out. Sales guy goes over and they chat for a couple minutes--"Do you want us to deliver it for you?"..Clearly was not comfortable with the bike. He tries again and duck walks to get it going then the inevitable happens -- once he starts moving he dumps the clutch and the bike lurches. Grabs a handful of throttle in response and goes right up onto the grass lot in front of dealer and slides out on his side.
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I wonder if he can get low financing for three bikes and a pillar of the building?
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