Why Harley's cost so much
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RE: Why Harley's cost so much
It's not a manufacturing cost, though. Automotive (including Harley) are always driving cost reductions down to their suppliers so that the bikes are cheaper to make. It might be legal overhead.
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From: MS
RE: Why Harley's cost so much
Actually they probably pay a set amount for all legal overhead in the form of insurance. That amount is factored into the cost. Even with tort reform any savings by the insurer would probably not be passed along to the moco. If they were passed along I am not so sure the moco would pass the savings along to the consumer.
Res ipsa locitur latin...lossely mean the thing speaks for itself.....ie a way of proving liability by ruling out all other possibilities
Res ipsa locitur latin...lossely mean the thing speaks for itself.....ie a way of proving liability by ruling out all other possibilities
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RE: Why Harley's cost so much
A jury was seated and instructions given by Mingo County Circuit Court Judge Michael Thornsbury Tuesday in the case of Marsha A. West, administratrix of the estate of Randolf A. West vs. Harley Davidson Motor Company, Group Inc., a foreign corporation and Mike's Harley Davidson Inc., a West Virginia corporation.
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RE: Why Harley's cost so much
From the article, it sounds to me as though he may have fallen asleep while riding. I read absoutely nothing to indicate anything a lawsuit could be based on. Sounds like a "sue high, settle low" kind of scenario, where the plaintiff knows they don't have a case and are hoping the MoCo will settle to make them go away.
Personally, I think that there should be some sort of preliminary trial for civil suits and if it's found to be frivolous, should be tossed with the instigator having to pay all fees. That would discourage these kinds of BS suits.
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Personally, I think that there should be some sort of preliminary trial for civil suits and if it's found to be frivolous, should be tossed with the instigator having to pay all fees. That would discourage these kinds of BS suits.
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RE: Why Harley's cost so much
That is just the type of thinking that I am bitchin about through out this thread......the article does not give a bit of information one way or the other, so by default most just think it is just some sue happy family who wants to have some jackpot justice. I cannot say that this is not the case based upon the article. It is just the freakin attitude, when in actuality the civil justice system is probably more likely to short change someone with a valid injury than overpay someone with a crappy frivilous lawsuit. You just hear about the verdicts when they affect a insurance company negatively because they have the publics ear. I guess by default I am less skeptical, because I know that the vast majority of claims are valid.
ORIGINAL: Clammy
From the article, it sounds to me as though he may have fallen asleep while riding. I read absoutely nothing to indicate anything a lawsuit could be based on. Sounds like a "sue high, settle low" kind of scenario, where the plaintiff knows they don't have a case and are hoping the MoCo will settle to make them go away.
Personally, I think that there should be some sort of preliminary trial for civil suits and if it's found to be frivolous, should be tossed with the instigator having to pay all fees. That would discourage these kinds of BS suits.
Cheers!
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From the article, it sounds to me as though he may have fallen asleep while riding. I read absoutely nothing to indicate anything a lawsuit could be based on. Sounds like a "sue high, settle low" kind of scenario, where the plaintiff knows they don't have a case and are hoping the MoCo will settle to make them go away.
Personally, I think that there should be some sort of preliminary trial for civil suits and if it's found to be frivolous, should be tossed with the instigator having to pay all fees. That would discourage these kinds of BS suits.
Cheers!
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RE: Why Harley's cost so much
Just from the details of the accident, or lack of, the judge is the one at fault here. The judge doesn't have to accept the lawsuit. He can dismiss it and move on. It's not the trial lawyers killing this country it is the stupid Judges!
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RE: Why Harley's cost so much
ORIGINAL: Rick51
Just from the details of the accident, or lack of, the judge is the one at fault here. The judge doesn't have to accept the lawsuit. He can dismiss it and move on. It's not the trial lawyers killing this country it is the stupid Judges!
Just from the details of the accident, or lack of, the judge is the one at fault here. The judge doesn't have to accept the lawsuit. He can dismiss it and move on. It's not the trial lawyers killing this country it is the stupid Judges!
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From: MS
RE: Why Harley's cost so much
Where did you get the details of the accident...the article had none that would give a theory of the case. I ant agree or disagree with your assesment w/o some facts. If there is no viable theory of liability...you are right.
ORIGINAL: Rick51
Just from the details of the accident, or lack of, the judge is the one at fault here. The judge doesn't have to accept the lawsuit. He can dismiss it and move on. It's not the trial lawyers killing this country it is the stupid Judges!
Just from the details of the accident, or lack of, the judge is the one at fault here. The judge doesn't have to accept the lawsuit. He can dismiss it and move on. It's not the trial lawyers killing this country it is the stupid Judges!
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From: MS
RE: Why Harley's cost so much
Okay I went back and reread and see where this is coming from now and appoligize if I offended anyone. But the fact remains that just because a policeman who did not do an accident reconstruction says that the cause was undetermined does not mean that there is no viable cause of action. I can only assume because the article is pretty crappy on the facts, that they have devoloped a cause of action based upon other facts..ie expert testimony that gives them a cause of action. If they sent the motorcycle to an expert who was able to determine that there was brake failure or some other mechanical failure it could be a valid lawsuit. Otherwise, the judge would have already dismissed the case. They had a new article in the same paper today, it was basically a repost of the same nothing that was printed yesterday.