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Road Warrior
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From: Double Oak, Texas
It looks sharp, but why is there no inter cooler? 
Compressing the air makes it hot. Hot air is less dense, kinds defeats the purpose of compressing it. (Well partially, at least) Thats why most serious turbos / super chargers have an inter cooler.
It makes me think this wasn't done for power, it was done for looks and bragging rights....
Compressing the air makes it hot. Hot air is less dense, kinds defeats the purpose of compressing it. (Well partially, at least) Thats why most serious turbos / super chargers have an inter cooler.It makes me think this wasn't done for power, it was done for looks and bragging rights....
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Rockford, IL
It is a serious supercharger, driven from the crankshaft. It does not use hot exhaust to spin its tubine compressor. While the act of compression does indeed raise temp of the air charge, it raises it NOWHERE near the level of hot exhaust gas driven turbo-superchargers, thus no need for an intercooler.
No intercooler?? are you kidding me? Those roots type blowers create ALOT of heat (due to the air pulses colliding with each other, created from the supercharger lobes). Besides, when you compress air it heats up, there's no way around it
Stellar HDF Member
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From: Northern, Ohio (Yuck!)
It is a serious supercharger, driven from the crankshaft. It does not use hot exhaust to spin its tubine compressor. While the act of compression does indeed raise temp of the air charge, it raises it NOWHERE near the level of hot exhaust gas driven turbo-superchargers, thus no need for an intercooler.
There is not any such thing as a "turbo-supercharger" on a motorcycle. They were how ever used on WW2 fighter planes. (P38s had them)
- "At the present time, turbosuperchargers are used in series with geared superchargers, the intercooler and carburetor being located between them. In this way, maximum use can be made of the advantages of each type. " From a GE 1943 docuement.http://rwebs.net/avhistory/opsman/geturbo/geturbo.htm
At no time was I confused between the 2 of them. Crank driven SCs are neither more nor less serious than belt driven SCs. They are merely different.
I have run out of time to correct all the rest of your mistakes... oh well
Road Warrior
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From: Double Oak, Texas
I know the difference between a supercharger and a turbo. It does appear how ever that you do not.
There is not any such thing as a "turbo-supercharger" on a motorcycle. They were how ever used on WW2 fighter planes. (P38s had them)
At no time was I confused between the 2 of them. Crank driven SCs are neither more nor less serious than belt driven SCs. They are merely different.
I have run out of time to correct all the rest of your mistakes... oh well
There is not any such thing as a "turbo-supercharger" on a motorcycle. They were how ever used on WW2 fighter planes. (P38s had them)
- "At the present time, turbosuperchargers are used in series with geared superchargers, the intercooler and carburetor being located between them. In this way, maximum use can be made of the advantages of each type. " From a GE 1943 docuement.http://rwebs.net/avhistory/opsman/geturbo/geturbo.htm
At no time was I confused between the 2 of them. Crank driven SCs are neither more nor less serious than belt driven SCs. They are merely different.
I have run out of time to correct all the rest of your mistakes... oh well
I have some understanding of the induced effect of heating in a gas due to compression, while not a powerplant mechanic or powerplant engineer, I have piloted a Merlin engined (1650-7 12 cylinder ....that's 1,650 cubic inches) P-51 Mustang just shy of 200 hours. It is equipped with a 2 speed (automatic) supercharger w/ intercoolers.
So sorry for all the mistakes....stay on your blood pressure meds and all should go okay while you are correcting.
BTW, there are plenty of non-intercooled forced air induction blowers in the automotive world, and yes, I understand they can't crank up the PSI nearly as much as intercooled units.
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Rockford, IL
I know the difference between a supercharger and a turbo. It does appear how ever that you do not.
There is not any such thing as a "turbo-supercharger" on a motorcycle. They were how ever used on WW2 fighter planes. (P38s had them)
At no time was I confused between the 2 of them. Crank driven SCs are neither more nor less serious than belt driven SCs. They are merely different.
I have run out of time to correct all the rest of your mistakes... oh well
There is not any such thing as a "turbo-supercharger" on a motorcycle. They were how ever used on WW2 fighter planes. (P38s had them)
- "At the present time, turbosuperchargers are used in series with geared superchargers, the intercooler and carburetor being located between them. In this way, maximum use can be made of the advantages of each type. " From a GE 1943 docuement.http://rwebs.net/avhistory/opsman/geturbo/geturbo.htm
At no time was I confused between the 2 of them. Crank driven SCs are neither more nor less serious than belt driven SCs. They are merely different.
I have run out of time to correct all the rest of your mistakes... oh well
And Crank driven and belt driven superchargers are the same, in that they are STILL both driven by the crank. It's just how they are connected to the crank is different
Stellar HDF Member
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From: Northern, Ohio (Yuck!)
Actually you are incorrect....a turbo is a TYPE of supercharger so technically there is such thing as a "turbo-supercharger"
And Crank driven and belt driven superchargers are the same, in that they are STILL both driven by the crank. It's just how they are connected to the crank is different
And Crank driven and belt driven superchargers are the same, in that they are STILL both driven by the crank. It's just how they are connected to the crank is different
And no a Turbo is not a type of supercharger. However both Turbos and SCs are examples of forced induction. Turbos are driven by exhaust gas and SCs are mechanically driven.
You could try googling this stuff before you come out and tell someone they are wrong... I'm just saying...
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Rockford, IL
Well of course there is such a thing as Turbo-supercharger. It is described in the line I quoted. A Turbo-supercharger is a multistage forced induction system mostly used on WW2 era warplanes. I never said there was "no such thing", I said they are not used on motorcycles.
And no a Turbo is not a type of supercharger. However both Turbos and SCs are examples of forced induction. Turbos are driven by exhaust gas and SCs are mechanically driven.
You could try googling this stuff before you come out and tell someone they are wrong... I'm just saying...
And no a Turbo is not a type of supercharger. However both Turbos and SCs are examples of forced induction. Turbos are driven by exhaust gas and SCs are mechanically driven.
You could try googling this stuff before you come out and tell someone they are wrong... I'm just saying...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbocharger
look at this and then you can go ahead and tell me that you are wrong. A Turbo IS a type of supercharger. By the way, i know the difference between the two
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Joined: Oct 2007
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From: South Florida
they are more problems than what they are worth I know of at least two people that had superchargers that ended up taking them off.
I agree with the comment that it is more for looks than anything else. A serious built twin cam motor would be way better.
I agree with the comment that it is more for looks than anything else. A serious built twin cam motor would be way better.
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Rockford, IL
Have had mine on for the whole summer with no problems what so ever and more hp than most (not all) built engines. The procharger is much more than just looks...if you want lets line them up!!!
