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Old 08-18-2020, 07:30 PM
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Just rode both bikes to Sturgis and then Idaho. The wives came along with all the luggage so both bikes were loaded to the max. We rode about 3700 miles and I have to say both bikes held up very well. I did learn a few things. #1 Lower your Hwy pegs below lower fairing vent. It blows hot air from fans on your leg.
#2 Put 2 ounces of Lucas top end lubricant per tank. It keeps the valve train quiet and I think it helps it to run cooler.
#3 Use octane booster when you can find it. These bikes run too lean stock and need a richer mix.
I wont change anything on the bike until after warranty, but when it gets close I am going to make them do a bleed down test to check if it's within specs. If it is not I will demand a new top end. If it meets specs I will do a stage 2 along with new headers. My friends bike runs hot also, the fan simply does not run as long.
On another note, I did get some good ideas on an oil cooler. Ran into a fellow from Florida that runs an extra hose through crash bar and drills vents in it. It increases capacity and helps cool oil. Add a larger oil pump and you are set. Going to check that out soon as it would not affect warranty
 
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#2 Put 2 ounces of Lucas top end lubricant per tank. It keeps the valve train quiet and I think it helps it to run cooler.
How would adding lube to fuel tank do anything to quiet the valve train?
 
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how would adding lube to fuel tank do anything to quiet the valve train?
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How would adding lube to fuel tank do anything to quiet the valve train?
but wait, that's not all! it's a valve train lubricant AND a dessert topping!

 
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Just rode both bikes to Sturgis and then Idaho. The wives came along with all the luggage so both bikes were loaded to the max. We rode about 3700 miles and I have to say both bikes held up very well. I did learn a few things. #1 Lower your Hwy pegs below lower fairing vent. It blows hot air from fans on your leg.
#2 Put 2 ounces of Lucas top end lubricant per tank. It keeps the valve train quiet and I think it helps it to run cooler.
#3 Use octane booster when you can find it. These bikes run too lean stock and need a richer mix.
I wont change anything on the bike until after warranty, but when it gets close I am going to make them do a bleed down test to check if it's within specs. If it is not I will demand a new top end. If it meets specs I will do a stage 2 along with new headers. My friends bike runs hot also, the fan simply does not run as long.
On another note, I did get some good ideas on an oil cooler. Ran into a fellow from Florida that runs an extra hose through crash bar and drills vents in it. It increases capacity and helps cool oil. Add a larger oil pump and you are set. Going to check that out soon as it would not affect warranty
What two bikes did you ride?
 
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How would adding lube to fuel tank do anything to quiet the valve train?
By lubricating. As advertised it cleans and lubricates injectors,fuel pumps, valve seats, compression rings, combustion chambers, and upper cylinder walls. I have used this product along with many friends on multiple bikes and air cooled engines. I have noticed dramatic improvement in sound and performance. As far as heat reduction, what causes heat? Friction of course. Lubrication as we all know reduces friction. Don't knock it until you have tried it.
Both bikes are 2020 Road Glide Limited 114.
 
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How does fuel in the combustion chamber make it into the valve train?
Fuel intake/inlet, yes.
Cylinders, rings, walls...sure.

But actual valvetrain, as it pertains to rockers, lifters, pushrods, etc.
This is where any kind of valvetrain noise will come from.

I'm all ears on how this happens through the fuels system.
 
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How would adding lube to fuel tank do anything to quiet the valve train?
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By lubricating
Since the valve train is lubricated by the oil system, how does adding something to the fuel lubricate the valve train?

Answer: It does not.




 
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By lubricating. As advertised it cleans and lubricates injectors,fuel pumps, valve seats, compression rings, combustion chambers, and upper cylinder walls. I have used this product along with many friends on multiple bikes and air cooled engines. I have noticed dramatic improvement in sound and performance. As far as heat reduction, what causes heat? Friction of course. Lubrication as we all know reduces friction. Don't knock it until you have tried it.
Both bikes are 2020 Road Glide Limited 114.
Is that not clear enough about what it lubricates. I have found it to reduce top end noise and help my engine to run more efficiently and am not alone. If you don't agree then don't use it, simple
 
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I think the "dramatic increase" is placebo effect.
Lucas oil has been around forever...and we've all seen the white plastic wheels and manual hand crank demo device.
Good marketing ploy...and if we end up with bikes/cars that have plastic gears and can turn a few rpm a minute (as fast as you can turn that crank by hand), along with generating zero heat, it would be an oil savior.

But...it's not relevant.

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