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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 08:43 AM
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When I took the MSF safety course in PA 4 years ago I was the only one in the course that already had a PA motorcycle license and 20 years of riding experience. Even though I had the license and experience it was about 15 years since I'd ridden . I'm glad I took the course and learned some new things. I also received a discount on my insurance since I passed the course.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 09:04 AM
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Let the fun begin!
I remember my wife climbing on our Honda 750, 8 months pregnant waving good bye and going to work at the bank. That was 35 years ago. We took a long break, (raising kids and too much work). We hadn't ridden in a long time and decided to get back into it several years ago. Took the course and bought some bikes. It went like this first 2 were a Sporty and a Fat Boy. then: Road King Classic, Electra Glide, EG, Classic, Ultra Limited x 5. Last year I surprised Kim with a new Limited on Valentines day. She enjoys riding as much as I do and she is a great rider.
I hope you and your wife have as much fun as we do. Congratulations!

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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 09:16 AM
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Good deal. I wish there was a class that was more advanced than the basic, but not actually the advanced class. When I took the class a few years ago, a lot of it was just too basic for the hands on part. Not that we didn't need to review it, but I can only push a bike back and forth across the parking lot so many times before I lose interest LOL.
Don't forget, you took the BASIC rider course. You had all the confidence in your abilities during the basic course. Now, you want something between the "BRC and the ARC." What you want is the BRC2. You'll ride your own bike and the very early skills development are deleted.
Now, regarding the "ARC." Don't be scared to challenge yourself. Take the course. You'll ride your own bike. It's a lot of FUN! (Especially EX. 5!)


When I notice a student rider is "more advanced", I challenge them to show me how well they can perform the exercises. (Unless they are a trials rider in the clutch control zone as they effectively stop the class.) LOL.

This is also an opportunity to work on bad habits. Complacency is a human trait. We all do it, to a degree.

No matter what level rider you are~ you can always learn something.

Then, when you master your ARC (Advanced Rider Course.) We'll move on to Bike Bonding (BB) and then Ultimate Bike Bonding (UBB.)

Motorcycling= The more you know, the better it becomes.
 

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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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Good deal. I wish there was a class that was more advanced than the basic, but not actually the advanced class. When I took the class a few years ago, a lot of it was just too basic for the hands on part. Not that we didn't need to review it, but I can only push a bike back and forth across the parking lot so many times before I lose interest LOL.
In Montana they restructured the classes so they have a beginner , novice, and advanced class, gonna take the novice this year, see what it's about. The advanced course trainer does the motorcycle cop training in missoula. I know a few of em and he said you learn the same skills in the advanced. I don't need to know how to ride consecutive u turns at a mile per hour without scrapping my pegs.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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I don't need to know how to ride consecutive u turns at a mile per hour without scrapping my pegs.
Those are called, "Limited space maneuvers" and yes, you DO need to know how to do them. In the rain, with a passenger, at night. Besides, it's FUN!

Slow speed maneuvers practice just might make you a better rider when you pull up to a redlight...

There's a reason cops practice this before EVERY shift...
My playground..


And, for the record, I am NOT cop (but I ride like one!)
This one is called "The Keyhole." It's a fun warmup.


A more advanced "serpentine" is in the back.

While all these are fun to do, they are not life saving skills. Practice your decel also. Everytime.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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You can make your own course with "cut in half" tennis *****. Find some unused, clean asphalt, take a tape measure. 18' diameter circle to start. Then, go 17' then 16'...

Decel practice? Cones set 5' apart for braking threshold, start at 15-20 mph, go up to 40. Try different things.
Engage ABS.
Disable ABS.
Rear brake only
Front brake only
With a passenger
In the rain or snow
Just practice!

Measure your total braking distances. Try to better them with practice.
 

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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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Good Luck! Im taking the advance course next month thru ABATE, and then another in May thru a local HD dealer. No such thing as not enough.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NORTY FLATZ
Don't forget, you took the BASIC rider course. You had all the confidence in your abilities during the basic course. Now, you want something between the "BRC and the ARC." What you want is the BRC2. You'll ride your own bike and the very early skills development are deleted.
Now, regarding the "ARC." Don't be scared to challenge yourself. Take the course. You'll ride your own bike. It's a lot of FUN! (Especially EX. 5!)


When I notice a student rider is "more advanced", I challenge them to show me how well they can perform the exercises. (Unless they are a trials rider in the clutch control zone as they effectively stop the class.) LOL.

This is also an opportunity to work on bad habits. Complacency is a human trait. We all do it, to a degree.

No matter what level rider you are~ you can always learn something.

Then, when you master your ARC (Advanced Rider Course.) We'll move on to Bike Bonding (BB) and then Ultimate Bike Bonding (UBB.)

Motorcycling= The more you know, the better it becomes.
I know it the basic. It's really dumbed down though. For good reason for many people though. I don't think we can take the MC test at the end in MN with the advanced course.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Kburgad
In Montana they restructured the classes so they have a beginner , novice, and advanced class, gonna take the novice this year, see what it's about. The advanced course trainer does the motorcycle cop training in missoula. I know a few of em and he said you learn the same skills in the advanced. I don't need to know how to ride consecutive u turns at a mile per hour without scrapping my pegs.
A novice class I think would have really liked. When the zombie apocalypse happens and I have to get through miles of dead cars in freeway, then I'll learn how to do 1 MPH u turns too LOL.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 01:45 AM
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Here you go load
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/ots/mms...refresher.aspx
 
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