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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 12:47 AM
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Order stuff and do it yourself = less $$$. Warranties are over rated.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 12:48 AM
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1,000 miles is too soon to see the max benefits of something as extensive as a stage IV.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rdwild

With the stage IV, you've increased piston diameter without changing stroke. You're going to move the torque curve up the RPM range. You're giving up very little on the bottom end to increase it everywhere else. I'd make that trade every time. Look at the comparison dyno sheet.
Note that Harley's chart for the Stage 4 is with the $1200 hi-flow exhaust. If you still have the stock header and tuning with street tuner, it will be hard to reach this performance. Also note the Harley rpms go to 6500. Not gonna happen with a Street tuner map. It'll be limited to 5800. Bike will also be limited to 107mph so it will be impossible to achieve this chart since the engine will cut out at 107mph which means you'll never be able to run out 5 or 6th gear on a dyno before redline.
 

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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 06:10 AM
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Yes, I have the hi-flow exhaust and pro-street tuner.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 06:16 AM
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I just had mine dynoed on Monday at Appleton Harley in Wisconsin. I have the same setup, stage IV, high flow exhaust, Heavy breather intake, on a street tuner and made 124 horse and 113 ft lbs.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 06:20 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 06:53 AM
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I was able to get 119hp/114tq on my CVOSG. Im now satisfied, although I was initially disappointed w/ my numbers. I was expected 120+/120 after looking at the owners Stage IV CVO Limited with 134/125.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by william magritz

I just had mine dynoed on Monday at Appleton Harley in Wisconsin. I have the same setup, stage IV, high flow exhaust, Heavy breather intake, on a street tuner and made 124 horse and 113 ft lbs.
hi william I have a very similar setup on my street glide (I have the ventilator intake) I also removed the "restrictor plates" are you still using the power vision? where you able to get a good map? I got a map from fuel moto but it has quite a bit of decel pop.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 11:27 PM
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So when I had the Dealership install my Stage IV, the tech of course ran a dyno on it. Although he didn't say much about it and I wasn't really all that impressed, I figured it was what it was..... 118 hp and 112 tq. The next time I was in the dealership, he came up to me and asked if he could put my bike back on the dyno cause he wanted to try something different this time. He came back with a tune sheet showing 120 hp and 117 tq. What he said, and showed me on the sheets, was that the mph cutout in the EMC would shut the bike down too early at 6000 rpm. What he did was disconnect the transmission sending unit so the EMC didn't really know how fast the bike was going so it shut down on the rev limiter at 6250, not speed. Made a bit of difference for sure but on the super slab, it still shuts down on mph cutout, sooooooo.......

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Old Jun 16, 2017 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Hardcase61
hi william I have a very similar setup on my street glide (I have the ventilator intake) I also removed the "restrictor plates" are you still using the power vision? where you able to get a good map? I got a map from fuel moto but it has quite a bit of decel pop.
Mine was all done on the screaming eagle tuner, I have a power vision with a fuel moto map but haven't flashed it yet to keep warranty in tact. I simple use the power vision to monitor temps and spark retard.
 
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