"Not recommended for use on Harley-Davidson Big Twin motorcycles"
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From: Behind you, making faces
This place stocks the Commander II. I may just say "screw it" and have them install me one and shut up about it.
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I'm sure the reason he puts lots of them on is the mileage. LOL. If it were me and I liked doing business there I would try and work something out. Like maybe getting correct tire installed and only paying for tire or labor. Otherwise have it changed somewhere else and take old one back and drop off and let him I'm pay to dispose of.
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From: Behind you, making faces
I'm sure the reason he puts lots of them on is the mileage. LOL. If it were me and I liked doing business there I would try and work something out. Like maybe getting correct tire installed and only paying for tire or labor. Otherwise have it changed somewhere else and take old one back and drop off and let him I'm pay to dispose of.
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No way would I give return business to someone who gave me a choice between the wrong tire and an overpriced one.
I wouldn't be worried about the tire slipping in corners. Chances are it is a softer compound which would have more grip(IMO) but not last as many miles.
I would worry about the load rating. Every time you hit a dip or pot-hole you will have more weight pushing down than just the weight of bike and rider, when you factor in force and gravity. I'm not a science major, so it may or may not actually work that way.
I wouldn't be worried about the tire slipping in corners. Chances are it is a softer compound which would have more grip(IMO) but not last as many miles.
I would worry about the load rating. Every time you hit a dip or pot-hole you will have more weight pushing down than just the weight of bike and rider, when you factor in force and gravity. I'm not a science major, so it may or may not actually work that way.
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I'd think you have a good argument if you were not informed that Dunlops disclaimer when the shop offered the 404.
If you can go with the Elite or Commander II
I have gotten in the habit over the years of cking the load rating on tires for a our bikes and vehicles.
WP
If you can go with the Elite or Commander II
I have gotten in the habit over the years of cking the load rating on tires for a our bikes and vehicles.
WP
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I've always run stock Dunlops on both my Deluxes -- just replaced rear at ~13,500 miles, still had some tread left but I had a road trip coming up and didn't want to change it on the road.
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Update: the shop said they couldn't work me in until Tuesday. Well, I didn't want to wind up in a ditch between now and then so I went elsewhere and had a Commander II installed. It handles beautifully with no "squirrelly butt" feeling in the rear.
With the D404, more than once I pulled over to look at the rear tire, thinking I had a flat. No kidding. I told my story to the lady at the shop today and with no prompting from me, she asked, "was it a 404?"
So yeah, that tire was a mistake and could have been a very bad thing.
With the D404, more than once I pulled over to look at the rear tire, thinking I had a flat. No kidding. I told my story to the lady at the shop today and with no prompting from me, she asked, "was it a 404?"
So yeah, that tire was a mistake and could have been a very bad thing.
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Never had any problems with the stock Dunlop 407/408 series. But, when it came time for new, I went with the CII's. You're gonna love the new handling. Seriously. Wait until you put the CII on the front as well. Two thumbs up. 
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Update: the shop said they couldn't work me in until Tuesday. Well, I didn't want to wind up in a ditch between now and then so I went elsewhere and had a Commander II installed. It handles beautifully with no "squirrelly butt" feeling in the rear.
With the D404, more than once I pulled over to look at the rear tire, thinking I had a flat. No kidding. I told my story to the lady at the shop today and with no prompting from me, she asked, "was it a 404?"
So yeah, that tire was a mistake and could have been a very bad thing.
With the D404, more than once I pulled over to look at the rear tire, thinking I had a flat. No kidding. I told my story to the lady at the shop today and with no prompting from me, she asked, "was it a 404?"
So yeah, that tire was a mistake and could have been a very bad thing.
Please tell us you won't be returning to the shop that installed the 404; they're a bunch of hacks. The tire they gave you was intended for something like a Shadow 750 or Vulcan 900, not a heavy cruiser like your Fat Boy.