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Old Mar 25, 2018 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cvaria
where'd that come from? i will ask about this when i call. looks like a good bet. thank you!
First time I've seen it. I have a kit with the 4700 adapter waiting to go on my 2013 XL1200C.
The destructions say "Check extension screw for proper tightness and retorque if needed, any time an oil filter is removed from
the sandwich adapter." 20 lb-ft (27.1 Nm)
 
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Old Mar 25, 2018 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by shanneba
First time I've seen it. I have a kit with the 4700 adapter waiting to go on my 2013 XL1200C.
The destructions say "Check extension screw for proper tightness and retorque if needed, any time an oil filter is removed from
the sandwich adapter." 20 lb-ft (27.1 Nm)
i think thats the screws in the adapter. i was looking at the same thing trying to make sense out of what happened. the only way that i can think of to torque the oil filter mounts screw thing is to put a big acorn or something in it. there's nothing to grab (without gnarling the threads).

i'll see what Marvin says. i'll try the on you posted if they say it's better. that way, i can get rid of the rubber on the anti-rotation device. seems like a good opportunity to switch to black braided lines.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 08:40 AM
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I asked via email about what Sportster models required mounting the 4700 adapter with the oil lines at the top, didn't get a clear answer about my 2013 XL1200C.

From the destructions:

APPLICATION NOTE: Sportster models
• Some Sportster models may require rotating the mounting
of the 4700 offset oil filter adapter 180 degrees, placing
the hoses above the filter
In these installations, the anti-rotation device is not required
 
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 08:53 AM
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Here is what Setrab shows for the adapter, it looks like the attachment is different-
http://www.setrabusa.com/products/oi...ich/index.html
" Naturally-open oil by-pass and built-in thermostatic oil valve allows vehicle to warm up to operating temperature before sending oil through to an oil cooler.
Self-contained thermostatic oil valve with pressure-relief function"

Found this with thermostat info: And price of $110.00
https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...sp?RecID=28263
This plate has a 3/4-16 filter thread and a 2 1/2 inch O-ring diameter. The built-in thermostat allows cold oil to bypass your oil cooler. When the oil temperature reaches 180°F / 82°C (+/- 10°F or +/- 3°C), the thermostat closes to force all of the oil to go through the cooler.

The thickness of the plate is 1 inch so be sure to check for filter clearance.



Jagg Oil Filter Adapter with thermostat, for Sportster & EVO PART # 4550<br/>
 

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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 03:21 PM
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Jeez! Glad you're ok Sir! I would have been beyond frustrated.

out of curiosity, and for future reference that I hopefully won't need... How does one go about cleaning up all of that oil out of nooks and crannies??
 
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 03:51 PM
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Id vote for a liberal application of S100 over the whole bike, does a great job on grease and oil types
 
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by deadrubberboy
Jeez! Glad you're ok Sir! I would have been beyond frustrated.

out of curiosity, and for future reference that I hopefully won't need... How does one go about cleaning up all of that oil out of nooks and crannies??
thank you sir. It was a lesson. No harm done.

A degreaser like simple green, rags, and qtips. Electrical contact cleaner on the gizmos. Not fun.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 05:19 PM
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I spoke to Marvin at Jagg/setrab. I told him that happened and he went ape trying to fix the situation.

He said there was red loctitite on the threaded portion, the nipple as he called it, originally. He said that what happened should not have happened and that in 20 years, I'm the only person (knuckle head) to have experienced the filter rocket launcher. He said that the tension created by the filter being tightened on to the adapter should be pulling on the nipple and keep it locked in place.

i told him it was more than likely my fault and i thought the high rev/vibes probably caused it. He He basically said to hel l with that and said he'd send out a replacement 4700. He added that since i had reset the adapter nipple without thouroughly degreasing the adapter threads, it could potentially happen again and it would be best to replace it.

I asked him if the 4550 would be better and told him about the anti-rotation device digging into the case. He said that the 4550 was new (why we hadnt seen it before) and less complicated than the big twin designed 4700. He added that it had been used in race applications. He opted to send the 4550 and asked that i send back the failed 4700.

Marvin went above and beyond. This is why i deal with jagg. They support hel l out of customers. Marvin knows me and knows how long ago i bought the 4700. He sold it to me. Customer for life.
 

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I do like the looks of the 4550 pictured above, mainly for the A/N fittings.
However, it appears to be cast instead of billet like the 4700.

It just needs to be black!

T.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 07:08 PM
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This is how Jagg shows the 4550 adapter configured for Sportsters-
You could get different fittings- http://www.setrabusa.com/products/co...ngs/index.html

 

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