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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 01:41 PM
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I still don't understand why one would want or need an air lift function on a bike jack.
How many pumps does it take to fully lift the bike 10-12?

I suppose if you have a disability or use the jack many times daily air would be a good option to have.

To each their own, I'm sure there's things I've done that others don't understand the reason why.
 

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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 02:59 PM
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Will this work on my Craftsman jack? If so, where do I get the air over oil bottle jack?
 

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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Hey Man
Will this work on my Craftsman jack? If so, where do I get the air over oil bottle jack?
Google "Strongway"! Amazon even sells 'em.

@ hattitude -
"So, $549.95 for a new air/hydraulic J&S jack (I don't need 2) or $70 and a about 1 hour from start to finish to convert my J&S (including my simple mind figuring out a way to do it).... "

Nice job! I've got the J&S Air jack, but I've NEVER felt the need to tie it down like you do. My Electra Glide is just rock solid on that damn jack. Have you ever had a problem???
 

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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JHP
@ hattitude -
"So, $549.95 for a new air/hydraulic J&S jack (I don't need 2) or $70 and a about 1 hour from start to finish to convert my J&S (including my simple mind figuring out a way to do it).... "

Nice job! I've got the J&S Air jack, but I've NEVER felt the need to tie it down like you do. My Electra Glide is just rock solid on that damn jack. Have you ever had a problem???
I probably don't need to use a hold down, but I always do. I've never had a problem..... yet....

I consider what's at stake if something happens, not the odds that it will or won't happen.... all boils down to risk/benefit... it only takes a second to strap it down.

Once strapped down, I feel I can wrench, scrub, or wheel it around to my heart's content....
 
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluraven
I still don't understand why one would want or need an air lift function on a bike jack.
How many pumps does it take to fully lift the bike 10-12?

I suppose if you have a disability or use the jack many times daily air would be a good option to have.

To each their own, I'm sure there's things I've done that others don't understand the reason why.
Have you ever heard the expression "Work smart, not hard"?

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I had the basic J&S for about 5 years... loved it!

Then I built myself a 350 sq. ft. shop to work on my bikes with a lift table and a compressor.

I still use the J&S, but felt silly pumping it with my foot with a compressor right there...

So I wanted to see about converting the J&S to air/hydraulic....

I called J&S, since they offer an air/hydraulic version of their jack. They said I couldn't just convert my jack because I would need to change the base plate and other parts...... hmmm

I searched & found the Strongway (#46209) 5-ton air/hydraulic bottle jack. It has about the same dimensions as the manual J&S pump.... close enough to work with.

I was able to mount it to the jack, add the handle, and now I can just wheel it around, hook a hose, and pump it up!

Not being a fabricator, I was able to make it work, but didn't figure a way to align the manual feature so it was accessible....

I posted my conversion and since then a couple of clever people have found a way to mount the bottle so the manual feature is easily accessible.

So we basically now have the air/hydraulic version of the J&S jack for about $70....

So..... "need to", absolutely not..... but "Want to", in my case, yes......
Ah, I see. Still, nice job- pretty, too- and it's nice having a machine doing that work. It bears repeating: "Work Smart, Not Hard"...

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Do you let someone else work on your bikes just to save time too?
Sometimes I do, especially when I'd rather spend $300 for someone else to work on a bike while I can be off at my regular job earning $1000.....and BTW, with 4 bikes and a car in one garage, the air jacks are very handy for storing and moving them around all the other toys in there...
 
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shorelasHD
Have you ever heard the expression "Work smart, not hard"?
Within reason I'm all for doing things that makes a job easier, however the day I can't pump my foot 12 times to jack my bike up is the day I no longer need to be doing whatever it is that requires my bike to be jacked up.

I'm glad the OP figured out how to do whatever they wanted to do.
Let's face it I'm sure they don't give a $hit what I really think.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluraven
Within reason I'm all for doing things that makes a job easier, however the day I can't pump my foot 12 times to jack my bike up is the day I no longer need to be doing whatever it is that requires my bike to be jacked up.

I'm glad the OP figured out how to do whatever they wanted to do.
Let's face it I'm sure they don't give a $hit what I really think.
It's not a matter of not being able to, it's a matter of not wanting to, and a garage compressor should be an stock item for anyone that does wrenching. If you have a compressor, it's just plain stupid not to take advantage of it. Just sayin'!

Oh, and BTW, it takes a LOT more than 12 pumps to get the bike all the way up.... again, Just Sayin'....
 

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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by shorelasHD
It's not a matter of not being able to, it's a matter of not wanting to, and a garage compressor should be an stock item for anyone that does wrenching. If you have a compressor, it's just plain stupid not to take advantage of it. Just sayin'!

Oh, and BTW, it takes a LOT more than 12 pumps to get the bike all the way up.... again, Just Sayin'....
Whatever it takes to convince yourself that it's a good idea.

To me, it's a waste of money to have an air actuated bike jack.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluraven
Whatever it takes to convince yourself that it's a good idea.

To me, it's a waste of money to have an air actuated bike jack.

Yeah I like keeping it simple. Besides with the air set up you need to pull out the hose, hook it up, put it away....Cool modification though, nice work to the OP.


Hey if your jacking up bikes all day long it seems like the way to go.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluraven
I've got to ask; why would you need or want to convert the jack to air?
It's one hell of a lot faster going up! - Not that I don't need the exercise.

Originally Posted by shorelasHD
Not to demean your ingenuity, but I have 3 AIR J&S jacks. I bit the bullet, spent the extra $$$, and saved a bunch of time NOT having to reinvent the wheel, so to speak.
I didn't have the setup to handle the compressor correctly at the time I bought my J&S. Now I do. It might have been better if J&S offered the conversion kits but AFAIK they don't.

Originally Posted by Bluraven
Within reason I'm all for doing things that makes a job easier, however the day I can't pump my foot 12 times to jack my bike up is the day I no longer need to be doing whatever it is that requires my bike to be jacked up.
If it was 12 times, I'd still be foot-pumping it. It's more like 30-40 or more, but I think my J&S bottle jack got low on fluid.


I'm glad the OP figured out how to do whatever they wanted to do.
Let's face it I'm sure they don't give a $hit what I really think.
I may be an a$$hole, but I'm a sensitive a$$hole.

Originally Posted by HenryT
Yeah I like keeping it simple. Besides with the air set up you need to pull out the hose, hook it up, put it away....Cool modification though, nice work to the OP..
Easy is as easy does! I have a Legacy hose reeler with Flexzilla air hose - just pull it out, couple to the lift, and away you go. Automatic recoiling - no fuss, no muss. I used to hate uncoiling and recoiling air hose. Now the reeler does all the work.
 
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