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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 05:22 AM
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Easy is as easy does! I have a Legacy hose reeler with Flexzilla air hose - just pull it out, couple to the lift, and away you go. Automatic recoiling - no fuss, no muss. I used to hate uncoiling and recoiling air hose. Now the reeler does all the work.
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluraven
I still don't understand why one would want or need an air lift function on a bike jack.
How many pumps does it take to fully lift the bike 10-12?
You've never used a lift jack or table have you. The J&S takes 78 pumps to raise it to the full up position. A Craftsman lift takes 49. The purpose of the mod is to let tools do the work. You don't cut hose with your teeth, pull out screws with your fingers or bang nails in with your fist do ya? 'Course not. Let the tools do the work.

I'm buying the bottle tomorrow and doing the mod!
 

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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hey Man
You've never used a lift jack or table have you. The J&S takes 78 pumps to raise it to the full up position. A Craftsman lift takes 49. The purpose of the mod is to let tools do the work. You don't cut hose with your teeth, pull out screws with your fingers or bang nails in with your fist do ya? 'Course not. Let the tools do the work.

I'm buying the bottle tomorrow and doing the mod!
First to answer you question:
"You've never used a lift jack or table have you?"

My answer; sure I have many times that's how I know what I'm talking about.


Perhaps I should clarify my comment that it takes 10-12 pumps to fully lift a bike.
When I mentioned the 10-12 pumps I should have stated that I was referring to the Craftsman yellow jack which is configured like a traditional floor jack with a handle to pump the jack vs. a foot pedal.

With my Craftsman yellow jack it takes 2 pumps to lift both tires off the ground and 9 pumps to get to the "full up position".
I know this to be fact because I just tested this 10 minutes ago.

That being said I've owed a Craftsman red jack at one time and I really don't think it takes anywhere near 49 pumps to get to the "full up position".
Perhaps someone who has one can test that out and let us know.

So IMO if it takes too much effort to raise a bike using a jack with a foot pedal configuration perhaps the resolution isn't adding air to an already high priced $450 jack but rather getting a different configured jack like the Craftsman yellow jack which cost more than 60% less than a J&S jack.
Add a Redline's dolly to the setup and you end up having a better setup than the J&S jack and spend about 40% less for it.

However like I stated in my post:

Originally Posted by Bluraven
To each their own, I'm sure there's things I've done that others don't understand the reason why.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 08:19 AM
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once pumped and completely erect, will it stay up indefinitely? Or do I need to occasionally play with it to keep it up?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FurryOne
I finally got around to changing my J&S jack over to air-power, and all I can say is it couldn't have been easier! I used the ubiquitous Strongway #46209 Air/Hydraulic bottle jack. The original poster that converted his J&S mounted the Air bottles that the manual pump lever couldn't be used. Then another poster reversed the bottle so that it could be, but used the original holes in the J&S mounting plate and had to drill & tap the base of the Strongway. Well, there's a much easier way - just remove the J&S bottle jack, set the new Strongway bottle jack in it's place. Mark 3 holes that will go through the base of the Strongway and the J&S mounting base (see pictures), then drill the Strongway base, set it in position on the J&S mounting base (I clamped it with a pair of Vice-Grips) and scribe the J&S base, remove the Strongway, then drill the J&S base. I used 1/4-20x3/4" bolts. Now I can use Air or muscle power to raise the J&S jack.
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Very cool!!
 
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by splattttttt
once pumped and completely erect, will it stay up indefinitely? Or do I need to occasionally play with it to keep it up?
If it stays up for more than 4 hours you better seek out professional help.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by splattttttt
once pumped and completely erect, will it stay up indefinitely? Or do I need to occasionally play with it to keep it up?
My jack bottle stays up (I run it under the tool chest when in storage and pump it up enough to touch the bottom of the chest and weeks later it's still up.)

But when I work on a bike, I always use the locks and release the jack pressure immediately (way more stable that way.)
 
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by splattttttt
once pumped and completely erect, will it stay up indefinitely? Or do I need to occasionally play with it to keep it up?



Originally Posted by Stiggy
My jack bottle stays up (I run it under the tool chest when in storage and pump it up enough to touch the bottom of the chest and weeks later it's still up.)

But when I work on a bike, I always use the locks and release the jack pressure immediately (way more stable that way.)
 
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Stiggy
My jack bottle stays up (I run it under the tool chest when in storage and pump it up enough to touch the bottom of the chest and weeks later it's still up.)

But when I work on a bike, I always use the locks and release the jack pressure immediately (way more stable that way.)
must be a hell 'of a tool chest. Or an amazing jack?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2016 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by splattttttt
must be a hell 'of a tool chest. Or an amazing jack?
It's all in a carport, and even though this is God's country with not a neighbor within a 1/2 mile, raising the jack (and a few other tricks,) means nothing rolls easily out of the work area unless you know what I did.
 
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