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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 06:21 PM
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I just removed the transmission cover in order to install a Mueller easy clutch. I have a 2000 Heritage Springer with a six speed transmission. I was expecting to find an oil slinger on the transmission side, in front of the inner ramp, but there isn't one. There is a small rod with three washers on the end, where the slinger would normally go, but no slinger. I looked at Ronnie's part, but the diagram does not show an oil slinger. Was the oil slinger only in some bikes? There is no evidence my transmission ever had the slinger because there are no broken parts inside.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 07:22 PM
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For starters your bike originally came with a five-speed and all the five speeds had slingers because yours is now a six-speed, somebody could have replaced the throw out bearing assembly because of a different gear set..



 

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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cgmartine

I just removed the transmission cover in order to install a Mueller easy clutch. I have a 2000 Heritage Springer with a six speed transmission. I was expecting to find an oil slinger on the transmission side, in front of the inner ramp, but there isn't one. There is a small rod with three washers on the end, where the slinger would normally go, but no slinger. I looked at Ronnie's part, but the diagram does not show an oil slinger. Was the oil slinger only in some bikes? There is no evidence my transmission ever had the slinger because there are no broken parts inside.

Your bike came OEM with an "Oil Slinger Assembly", part #37069-90A.....

Not sure where you were looking, but it is #4 in the HD OEM Service parts online pic below.

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...391ca34d6c9f/y


Is that part #4 missing, or are you looking for something else....??? Do you have some aftermarket transmission or trans gearing changes..?


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98hotrodfatboy and I were typing at the same time. I missed that you now have a 6-speed, instead of the OEM 5-speed. I suspect that 98hotrodfatboy is correct that the gear set change most likely has something to do with it.

Hopefully someone with the 6-speed gear set can confirm this...
 

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Old Nov 25, 2023 | 01:01 AM
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Hattitude, the parts in the diagram you posted are for an FLSTS Heritage Springer 1BRY. My bike is a Heritage Springer BR. Part #4 is the one I thought my transmission should have, but does not. The slinger I referred to in Ronnie's Parts schematic for the BR does not show part #4. Apparently, some Harley models came with the slinger and some did not. The previous owner installed the Harley-Davidson six speed transmission around 2018, which apparently did not come with the oil slinger. I have been reading up on the slinger and apparently, one of the reasons for the slinger was not only to lubricate the throw out bearing, but also to alleviate the problem of the transmission oil migrating to the primary. Softails for the most part did not have that problem and as a result, some did not have the slinger. I'll talk to my mechanic tomorrow and ask him if I should add the slinger or just do without it.
 

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Old Nov 25, 2023 | 08:15 AM
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Hattitude, the parts in the diagram you posted are for an FLSTS Heritage Springer 1BRY. My bike is a Heritage Springer BR. Part #4 is the one I thought my transmission should have, but does not. The slinger I referred to in Ronnie's Parts schematic for the BR does not show part #4. Apparently, some Harley models came with the slinger and some did not.

FWIW...

The HD online parts finder shows a 2003 Heritage Springer "1BYB" or "1BRY", both show that they came with the "Oil Slinger Assembly", part #37069-90A.

Ronnie's parts finder shortens both those model designations to "BY" or "BR"... The HD OEM parts finder "1BRY" and Ronnie's "BR" are the same thing.

I just checked and Ronnie's parts finders show both those bikes came with the #37069-90A, but Ronnie's calls it a "Push Rod End"... I have no idea why the two parts finders use different names for the same part.

I still supect the issue is due to your 6-speed conversion.

Let us know what you find out..
 
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Old Nov 25, 2023 | 09:49 AM
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I believe it was 1991 when the MoCo went to the slinger in the spline shaft 5 speeds, prior to that they did not use a slinger it just had to throw out bearing in the shaft. Maybe somebody just used the older style throw out bearing and rod.. If you owned it from brand new then I would suspect something but you did not Therefore somebody changed that out.. Who even knows if the one that you have in there is aftermarket or OEM even...
 
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Old Nov 25, 2023 | 04:04 PM
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When I installed the Baker Heavy Duty Throwout Bearing kit kit into Reaper, the instructions said to remove the slinger. The slinger is that "hat" looking thing on the end of the push rod end. It's just pressed on the end of the push rod end, and you knock it off with a deep socket and hammer.You still need the push rod end, though, as that's what the throw-out bearing is attached to, and it interfaces with the push rod that goes to the other side of the transmission, and actuates the clutch ball/ramp assembly. According to Baker, it's not a necessary item. I've had the DD6 installed for 5 years, and close to 100,000 miles, and it's never been an issue.

AFAIK, the slinger alone isn't available. It comes as part of the push rod end assembly.

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Hattitude, I need to profusely apologize. You were right and I was bigly wrong!! When looking at Ronnie's Parts, I was looking under "Transmission Housing Assembly." The oil slinger was actually listed under "Clutch Assembly." So the bottom line is that the Softail with a 5 speed transmission does have an oil slinger.

I took my 6 speed transmission cover to show to my mechanic, and he told me that my transmission did not come with an oil slinger, and that it was not required.

So now, I am good to go and will be putting it all back together with the new Mueller inner and outer ramps I got.
 

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Originally Posted by cgmartine

Hattitude, I need to profusely apologize. You were right and I was bigly wrong!! When looking at Ronnie's Parts, I was looking under "Transmission Housing Assembly." The oil slinger was actually listed under "Clutch Assembly." So the bottom line is that the Softail with a 5 speed transmission does have an oil slinger.

I took my 6 speed transmission cover to show to my mechanic, and he told me that my transmission did not come with an oil slinger, and that it was not required.

So now, I am good to go and will be putting it all back together with the new Mueller inner and outer ramps I got.
No need to apologize....

I was trying to clarify my response, as it appeared you may have looked at the wrong section.

I have been mistaken more times than I care to count... At those times, I appreciate it when someone gives newer, and/or more accurate info. I am always willing to learn..

Glad you got it figured out....

98hotrodfatboy got it right when it suggested it was the difference in the 6-speed v the 5-speed.

I'd like to thank Clammy for his info. I have had that part in my hands a couple times, and I thought it was all one piece. I never noticed that the oil slinger was just pressed onto the pushrod end...
 
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