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Old Dec 27, 2023 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pgreer
I mentioned the "price was a little high". And I based that on the idea that it will likely require some maintenance items to make it road worthy. While we don't actually know that, a 27 year old bike with 3k miles has done a lot of sitting at some point in it's life. And we haven't seen any pictures of the bike either.

If it's all updated on maintenance and has tires with good tread and under 5 years old, then there isn't much to negotiate on. But it's always worth giving it a try as long as the buyer is serious and willing to accept the asking price if it is ready to ride home etc. If not, then I'd guess it's going to cost around $1k or so at an HD dealer or a little less at an independent. But I doubt you can find an HD dealer that will still work on EVO's

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Those are all things I'd be concerned with too. Low milage can sometimes be as bad as high milage, if not worse.

I don't disagree that the price seems high for a 27 year old bike but it does seem to at least be in line with comparable bikes at other dealers.

If the OP is looking at the same bike that I came across recently it looks to be all original and in very good condition. Unfortunately, the listing H-D dealer doesn't give any details. For me there's value in an all original & unmolested bike even if I know it'll need some work due to inactivity because it still has a good and complete foundation to work with.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 07:52 AM
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If its super low miles, mint condition and ready to roll with all maint done including tires and battery and fluids incl brake fluid, Its about 1000.00 high BUT if it blows your skirt up, enjoy! This is my 09 that I overpaid for. Bought in July of 22 with 3000 miles, its an 09 and was bone stock.. then the bug hits... And you have great taste in bikes..
 

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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 08:34 AM
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If its super low miles, mint condition and ready to roll with all maint done including tires and battery and fluids incl brake fluid, Its about 1000.00 high BUT if it blows your skirt up, enjoy! This is my 09 that I overpaid for. Bought in July of 22 with 3000 miles, its an 09 and was bone stock.. then the bug hits... And you have great taste in bikes..
I'd overpay for a beauty like that too!!

The joy of owning the bike I really wanted that's in mint condition will last WAY longer than I'll miss the extra money I had to pay for it. Likewise, I'd regret not buying it way longer than I'd regret overpaying for it!
 
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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 10:00 AM
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I always offer book prices in these threads, but to clarify, I don't believe that paying more than the "Average Retail" from a price guide is "overpaying"...

IMHO, they are just guides that give a good base to start from when looking for a used bike. That is why I always try to add, "You must decide how much above average retail that bike is worth", when I quote Black Book for a value.

There are many reasons to pay over the average retail, that only the buyer needs to justify... Everything from: a bike in above average condition, a bike with exactly the mods you would like, to include a bike in only average condition, but is locsted close by so there are no transportation issues, can all give a bike value to a specific person..

Some like modded engines, some like all stock, etc, etc. I certainly would never diminish personal, essential advantages of one bike over another to each person.

In about 2018, I bought a 2001 FXSTS Springer. It was in excellent cosmetic condition, but I found two mechanical issues in my inspection. One that was a crap shoot. It could have been minor, or could have been a big red flag. Since the bike was going to be the 3rd bike in my garage, it was all OEM except for the seat, only had 9.8K miles, and I had the skills to fix it if the red flag turned out to be worse case... I paid $700 over Black Book average retail for it... At the moment I bought it, I wasn't sure if I scored or was about to have a bike with an engine project (which could still be kind of a score to me, as I have the power "sickness"). Turns out I scored, but it could have gone either way until I got it on my lift table and pulled a few parts to check things out...

There are a lot of emotional private sellers and greedy dealers. If you compare their asking prices to both JD Powers or Black Book Powersports, clearly many have an inflated opinion of what their bikes are worth... I always offer the value guide numbers to try to give people an unemotional, realistic starting point...

Knowledge is power, but we all get to choose what we think a bike is worth to us...
 

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Originally Posted by dbarbee
I'd overpay for a beauty like that too!!

The joy of owning the bike I really wanted that's in mint condition will last WAY longer than I'll miss the extra money I had to pay for it. Likewise, I'd regret not buying it way longer than I'd regret overpaying for it!
EXACTLY!!!! I paid 1000.00 over book BUT I've been offered more than I have into it. I did the fishtails, white walls, S&S. I never regretted a dime of it. It has the bags, seat back rest etc. I stripped it down as I have a Triglide now. I had the RGS and R9T at the time of the photo, then I got hurt. Nowadays, If the right number came along, I'd sell her so she could be ridden...
 
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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by uncle kebo
If its super low miles, mint condition and ready to roll with all maint done including tires and battery and fluids incl brake fluid, Its about 1000.00 high BUT if it blows your skirt up, enjoy! This is my 09 that I overpaid for. Bought in July of 22 with 3000 miles, its an 09 and was bone stock.. then the bug hits... And you have great taste in bikes..
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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 12:16 PM
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When I was looking I had a whole day planned. Going down the south east coast of FL and then up the south west coast of FL. I had all my stops planned but found my bike. Long story short is I payed too much but seeing I wanted this bike since 1984 when I was 22 I bought it. Seeing I put 1/2 down, from an inheritance, I don't feel bad.

Buy the bike YOU want and can afford.

 
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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 12:22 PM
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EVO's have a draw to them. That effects price. That will cause sellers to try and get even more.

I have a 1996 FB been offer more that it is valued at several times over the years.. I will not sell it a twice the value.
Mine is unmolested. It is today what it was the day it was new.
It is mine. Wife and I put a lot of fun memories on it.

I had a man walked up and offer me $2,000 over the highest value you would see placed on it.
I told him EVO is cool but not that dam cool.
Just turned out he had one just like it and wanted to live that dream over again.
People will pay to relive a dream or to create a new one. Foolish money spent maybe ,maybe not.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 12:45 PM
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Really your buying a brand new bike thats been in Hibernation. Most of the rubber parts should be replaced though, Tires, master cylinders, rubber brake hose's, check drive belt. Maybe offer 6300.00. If it was the same year springer you would be paying 2xs that price.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2023 | 12:47 PM
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Uncle K, Is that a CARC drive Guzzi over on the left ?
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