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Old 08-25-2016, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nomadmax
114 cubic inches and can't bust a 100 horsepower at the rear wheel. Pitiful.
It does seem surprising low in the Parts Catalog particularly since the EPA rated the 114 engine at 100.6 hp. I assume that's at the rear wheel also since they rated the 110 engine at 80hp which is definitely at the rear wheel using the same methodology.

Here's the EPA data for both the 107 and 114.
 
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Old 08-26-2016, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
We will have our 2017 bike today or tomorrow and we will start a full effort of testing and product development. We already have ECM reads for the 2017 bikes and are working on getting everything ready with Power Vision so that part of it should go quickly, however we have to develop & redesign a full range of products as nearly everything has changed on these bikes from an engine, exhaust & intake standpoint; we have a ton of work ahead of us. We will start a new thread with our test info and post as we go just as we have done in the past, really looking forward to working in this new platform, we have a bunch of cool stuff in the works with some great partners that we work with. Stay tuned...
Will you develop a tuner that will allow the end user to richen up the mixture or will your new tuner just allow changes to the advance and rev limiter like the new Harley tuner? Will your new Milwaukee Eight tuners be 50 state EPA compliant or will you also be developing a "race only" tuner or as the EPA chooses to describe it, a "defeat device" tuner. I know a lot of people on here are counting on you to do so
 

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Old 08-27-2016, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jakedaniel
Will you develop a tuner that will allow the end user to richen up the mixture or will your new tuner just allow changes to the advance and rev limiter like the new Harley tuner? Will your new Milwaukee Eight tuners be 50 state EPA compliant or will you also be developing a "race only" tuner or as the EPA chooses to describe it, a "defeat device" tuner. I know a lot of people on here are counting on you to do so
I doubt that you will get a clear answer on your question. After the Harley lawsuit I would think the rest of the vendors would be sitting down and asking themselves if they really want to risk taking on the Feds on this issue. To be taken to court for not following the EPA guidelines especially after the Harley verdict would be foolish as well as a certain financial bankruptcy.

"Off Road Use Only" means exactly that. It would be much easier to enforce the manufacturers of new vehicles than it would be to keep the after marketers from selling their wares. Somebody will test it no doubt, but not the smart ones.
 
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Old 08-27-2016, 06:05 PM
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Test rode 17 Limited with only 9 miles on odometer this morning didn't feel any big difference in the power except it was very smooth didn't feel like I'm going 90 MPH on the freeway very quite and smooth no vibrations in floor boards or handle bars. Front tire didn't have bouncy ball feelings on rough road, very goof first impression IMO.
 
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Originally Posted by liquidr1
cycle worlds article says there is an assist and slip clutch. Also if you look at the cut away pics in the article, the compensator has definitely been beefed up. Still a chain drive with auto tensioner.
It's doesn't protrude out as much as the older motors. Visually speaking, the motors looks awesome.
 
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