Performance advice needed!
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From: Wonder Lake, IL
Performance advice needed!
Ok, here's the deal. I am looking for more midrange power from my 2006 Ultra.
1st and 2nd gears, the bike is strong. But it seems to just lose it when I hit 3rd. 4th and 5th seem to come on a little stronger.
Here's what I've done to the bike so far:
95 kit with 203 Cam, Stage 2 download, Techlusion(DFO) unit, SE Pro slash cut pipes, and a Doherty Power PACC.
PS I have the forged pistons also, so I can go with the High Compression heads if I choose.
All suggestions are welcome!
1st and 2nd gears, the bike is strong. But it seems to just lose it when I hit 3rd. 4th and 5th seem to come on a little stronger.
Here's what I've done to the bike so far:
95 kit with 203 Cam, Stage 2 download, Techlusion(DFO) unit, SE Pro slash cut pipes, and a Doherty Power PACC.
PS I have the forged pistons also, so I can go with the High Compression heads if I choose.
All suggestions are welcome!
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From: Wonder Lake, IL
RE: Performance advice needed!
No port work yet.
Has anybody heard of these guy? Or use one yet? The folks at Rinehart (Bub) recommended it.
http://www.terrycomp.com/tv.html
Has anybody heard of these guy? Or use one yet? The folks at Rinehart (Bub) recommended it.
http://www.terrycomp.com/tv.html
RE: Performance advice needed!
Dave,
I've got plenty midrange with my 95 kit but I've thought about going to the 211 cams. They kick in big time at mid to high. The only problem is that you may lose some at low end. I've got way more than I need at low end so I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Head work is a must anytime you do this upgrade. Harley doesn't include it because of EPA regs but if you do the SE heads or send your stock heads to someone who knows what they are doing you will get a much better running bike.
Terry
I've got plenty midrange with my 95 kit but I've thought about going to the 211 cams. They kick in big time at mid to high. The only problem is that you may lose some at low end. I've got way more than I need at low end so I'm not sure what I'm going to do. Head work is a must anytime you do this upgrade. Harley doesn't include it because of EPA regs but if you do the SE heads or send your stock heads to someone who knows what they are doing you will get a much better running bike.
Terry
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RE: Performance advice needed!
A few people have told me that switching from the SE Pro pipes to Rinehart True Duals may just be the ticket.
But I am kind of sick of all the false promises of increased performance. So I'm trying not to waste more money, and just do one more performance improvement. (If thats possible!)
But I am kind of sick of all the false promises of increased performance. So I'm trying not to waste more money, and just do one more performance improvement. (If thats possible!)
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RE: Performance advice needed!
BaggerDave
As I said I have the Rineharts but they are being true duals not the best for low end but propper tuning helps there. I wanted the style and the o2 sensore port.
As for terrycomp.com, very interesting. The concept is good constantly adjust to the Air Fuel (closed loop) but the install sucks ampire clips or splicing into the harness. Also after looking into there install it appears they tweaking the TPS feedback to get there desired result. If dyno jet added this o2 sensor feature to the PC I would say buy it for sure, but unless there skipping something on the online install instructions I would skip terrycomp at this time. my 2 cents.
Additionally on the Rineharts I like the pipes and my bike is smooth as can be with no strange surges, flat spots or other tuning issues with my current PC map. The off the shelf map from PC did have some flat spots due to being overly rich.
Rich
As I said I have the Rineharts but they are being true duals not the best for low end but propper tuning helps there. I wanted the style and the o2 sensore port.
As for terrycomp.com, very interesting. The concept is good constantly adjust to the Air Fuel (closed loop) but the install sucks ampire clips or splicing into the harness. Also after looking into there install it appears they tweaking the TPS feedback to get there desired result. If dyno jet added this o2 sensor feature to the PC I would say buy it for sure, but unless there skipping something on the online install instructions I would skip terrycomp at this time. my 2 cents.
Additionally on the Rineharts I like the pipes and my bike is smooth as can be with no strange surges, flat spots or other tuning issues with my current PC map. The off the shelf map from PC did have some flat spots due to being overly rich.
Rich
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RE: Performance advice needed!
True Duals are worst pipes for power and Super Trapp 2 into 1 are best pipes for power. If you can chose cam, heads,exhaust as a package so that you know all are compatable with each other. Stay away from hi-compression pistons with todays quality of fuel or you will experience pinging [detonation]. Keep compression under 9.8 to 1 unless you carefully choose the correct cam. I learned the hard [expensive way] by letting dealer chose parts combination for me. He went with 10 1/4 to 1 compression and Andrews 37 cam. That combo pings from 2000-3000 rpm. I have since switched cam to Andrews 31 cam and couldnt be happier. 97 horse and 97 torque with 95" on Electra Glide Injected.
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RE: Performance advice needed!
True Duals are worst pipes for power and Super Trapp 2 into 1 are best pipes for power.
Do you have any facts to back that statement up?
Do you have any facts to back that statement up?
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From: Wonder Lake, IL
RE: Performance advice needed!
Nevermind, I figured it out!
Thank God for George at Dobeck Performance (Techlusion)! http://www.techlusion.com/
After spending a little time this morning playing with different settings, we got it dialed in perfectly!
What a friggin difference. The bike rocks now!
It seems the Doherty Power PACC was really looking for more fuel. The bike pulls strong from 2200-5000 rpm!
Thank God for George at Dobeck Performance (Techlusion)! http://www.techlusion.com/
After spending a little time this morning playing with different settings, we got it dialed in perfectly!
What a friggin difference. The bike rocks now!
It seems the Doherty Power PACC was really looking for more fuel. The bike pulls strong from 2200-5000 rpm!
