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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 01:48 PM
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I recently watched a video on this topic. The person doing the video encourages the use of the HD plug but also suggested to gap at .038 inch because even though the .040 inch is a happy medium but he mentioned that after a few thousand miles, the gap has worked to .043 inch. I'm thinking of visiting this on my Harleys out in the garage after it warms up again. By the way the video was from DocHarley and Low Country HD. I believe he has some good information at times and isn't always selling a HD product. As far as fouling a plug, black fluffy is too much fuel (dirty Air Filter?) and a wet black plug is oil products, leaking valve guide seals. The 05's had this problem and required changing the valve guide seals.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nomadmax
Here's a good rule of thumb:

If your bike ran well before you started working on and doesn't after you've "improved it", put it back the way it was. A Harley Davidson motorcycle is akin to a tractor in a field. No spark plug, oil, octane booster or anything else (except for a brief case of money) will make it perform better.

This is bad news. I just bought E-3 spark plugs, Amsoil, NOS, and those little magnets you put in your gas tank.

I was banking on 150 hp/90 mpg.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynamick
This is bad news. I just bought E-3 spark plugs, Amsoil, NOS, and those little magnets you put in your gas tank.

I was banking on 150 hp/90 mpg.
Good luck with that unless you add a "Powered By Honda" sticker.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by svarnster
I read that the previous plugs were fouled. I would be looking at fuel issue. Was bike hard to start just prior to plug change? I run the ir ngk with no issues. I would buy a set of stock plugs and try them to see if it helps. Cheap way to find out.
different EFI and ECM on bikes up to 2001. Earler bikes can run good with many different plugs. Delphi systems are best run with HD plugs, this has been discussed many times.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by xcbullet
different EFI and ECM on bikes up to 2001. Earler bikes can run good with many different plugs. Delphi systems are best run with HD plugs, this has been discussed many times.
I used Denso IXU-22’s on my carbed ‘01 FXD. Started and idled better than stockers. I ever used them on my RK as I’m told you have to disable ion sensing.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:18 AM
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I've run NGK iridiums for years with zero issues.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 08:27 AM
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I run NGK iridium and have zero issues. I have run champion, harley to just see if there was a difference. At this point I don’t feel there is much if any differences between them exception is construction. Ymmv
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 08:38 AM
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I am an OEM or Champion plug guy... They are cheap and I change them frequently...

The only thing I would suggest, is if you want to compare plugs (any type or manufacturer), make sure you are comparing two NEW plugs....

Too often people replace worn out plug type A, with a new plug type B, and think the better running characteristics are due to the type B plug..... Often, it's just the fact that a worn out plug was replaced with a new plug...
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Krobinson
I would get an occasional misfire before changing the plugs, but no issues like I am having now. I'm guessing I should have left the gap on the NGK plugs alone and they would have worked out fine. I have 37,000 miles on my bike and I'm not due for changing out the fuel filter according to the service manual so I wouldn't think that would be an issue unless it just didn't last the length of its expected service life. The bike came with a 1450, but it has a tuner, upgraded pipes and air filter, and is now displaced at 1550. Not sure if that has any impact on what spark plugs I should be using?
My bike also sat for about 6 months or so while I worked on changing out the drive belt and clutch cable. This job resulted in all fluids (engine, trans, primary) being replaced so fouled oil can't be an issue. I have only ran about one tank of fuel since getting it back on the road and I have always ran premium fuel.
sitting that long with ethanol gas, the 10 % ethanol could have turned to water over the 6 months. That could explain hard start. It happens in lawn mowers every winter. A friend owns a small engine shop, told me every spring he has customers bring in mowers that won't start or run poorly. He has a primer bulb for a boat with hose attached. He syphons out the water from the bottom of the tank, adds a new plug and air filter and mower starts and runs well. keep us posted.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Krobinson
My service manual states the gap is .038 - .043 so I went in the middle with .040.
Keeping in mind the gap slowly erodes wider as it ages, I would gap to the shortest dimension.
 
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