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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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2001 FLHT Carb Model. 19,300 miles

My bike stopped firing instantly overnight.
I tried holding in the tripometer to check the codes and I get 1-10 clr, then ppu82883, which I read that is an historical code, not a trouble code?

I jumped across terminals 1 & 2, turn the ignition on, then off, then on, then off, then on again and I get no codes.

If I turn the ignition on the first time and leave it on, I get 12 fast blinks over and over again, with the terminals jumped.

Can anyone tell me why my bike will not fire, or if I have a code that I'm not aware of??? __________________
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Found this from a search for 01-03 Delpi's, Hope it helps.

https://www.hdforums.com/m_64805/tm.htm

How to test Delphi systems ECM codes (00-03)
Submitted by TCSTD:

1. Remove right side saddlebag and side cover if so equipped. Remove protective plug from data link connector.

2. To activate the diagnostic feature, proceed as follows:
a. Create diagnostic test wire or use a female spade clip.
b. Install diagnostic test wire across Terminals 1 and 2 on the data link connector.
c. Turn Ignition/Light Key Switch to IGNITION and wait approximately 10 seconds (4 seconds lamp ON, 6 seconds lamp OFF) for check engine lamp to start flashing.

3. All trouble codes are sent out as a series of flashes. To retrieve the first digit of the trouble code simply observe the number of times the lamp flashes.
a. The lamp will then flash one or more times to indicate the first digit of the trouble code.

b. The length of time the lamp is illuminated and the length of time in which it is off are each about 0.5 second in duration.

4. The second digit follows:
a. Following the transmission of the first digit, there is a 1.2 second pause in which the lamp is off.
b. The lamp will then flash one or more times to indicate the second digit of the trouble code. Count the number of times the lamp flashes to retrieve the second digit.

5. If more than one trouble code is sent:
a. Following transmission of the second digit of the first code, there is a 3 second pause in which the lamp is off.
b. Once all codes have been sent, the data string is repeated. When you have recorded the same trouble code twice, it is an indication that the transmission has been restarted and that all trouble codes have been retrieved.

IMPORTANT NOTE ..If diagnostic test wire is installed across Pins 1 and 2 on connector in lieu of a Scanalyzer, the ECM is placed in a diagnostic test mode and the engine will start. The test wire must be removed from the data connector and the ignition switch turned OFF or the check engine lamp will continue to flash codes. A historic trouble code resides in the memory of the ECM until the code is cleared by use of the Scanalyzer or a total of 50 trips has elapsed. A “trip†consists of a start and run cycle, the run cycle lasting at least 30 seconds. After the 50 trip retention period, the trouble code is automatically erased from memory (that is, assuming no subsequent faults of the same type are detected in that period). The numbers after the 'historic' or 'current' is the speedo code number, but without the electrical diognostics manual you're peeing into the wind.

1 Current 53 ECM flash error
2 Historic 53 ECM flash error
3 Current 54 ECM EEPROM error
4 Historic 54 ECM EEPROM error
5 Current 63 ECM serial data low
6 Current 63 ECM serial data open/high
7 Current 63 TSSM serial data low
8 Current 63 TSSM serial data open/high
9 Current 61 Loss of TSM/TSSM serial data
10 Current 14 Loss of all ECM serial data (state of health)
10 24 Loss of vehicle speed
10 33 Loss of vehicle inhibit motion
10 43 Loss of power train security status
11 Current 33 System relay contacts open
12 Current 33 System relay coil high/shorted
13 Current 33 System relay coil open/low
14 Current 33 System relay contacts closed
15 Current 99 Incorrect password
16 Current 99 Missing password
17 Current 41 CKP sensor intermittent
18 Current 41 CKP sensor synch error
19 Current 11 TP sensor open/low
20 Current 11 TP sensor high
21 Current 12 MAP sensor open/low
22 Current 12 MAP sensor high
23 Current 14 ET sensor voltage low
24 Current 14 ET sensor open/high
25 Current 15 IAT sensor voltage low
26 Current 15 IAT sensor open/high
27 Current 24 Front ignition coil open/low
28 Current 25 Rear ignition coil open/low
29 Current 24 Front ignition coil high/shorted
30 Current 25 Rear ignition coil high/shorted
31 Current 24 Front cylinder combustion intermittent
32 Current 25 Rear cylinder combustion intermittent
33 Current 23
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001electra
2001 FLHT Carb Model. 19,300 miles

My bike stopped firing instantly overnight.
I tried holding in the tripometer to check the codes and I get 1-10 clr, then ppu82883, which I read that is an historical code, not a trouble code?

I jumped across terminals 1 & 2, turn the ignition on, then off, then on, then off, then on again and I get no codes.

If I turn the ignition on the first time and leave it on, I get 12 fast blinks over and over again, with the terminals jumped.

Can anyone tell me why my bike will not fire, or if I have a code that I'm not aware of??? __________________
I don't think you will get any codes for ECM by using the trip meter button. I think that is for newer models.
Jumping pins 1&2 is your best bet. But you don't need to turn ignition on/off/on/off/on etc.
If my memory serves me right just install jumper and turn ignition on. There should be a pause between flashes to identify another number. 3 fast flashes a pause and five fast flashes would indicate a code 35 (example).

Was the engine light on before no fire? Am I correct to assume bike turns over? Do you have an electrical service manual? Have you tried removing a spark plug and hooking back up to coil and check for spark while turning engine over?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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I had no engine light on before or now. It was running ok, I parked it overnight and now no fire. It spins over good. I tried using another plug while turning over engine and no spark.
Any idea what might keep it from firing?
I jumped across terminals 1 & 2 and if I turn it on once and leave it on the engine light will come on then go out, then blink 11 or 12 times really fast over end over again.
If I go through the procedure of ignition on,off,on,off, then on; I get no codes.
What do you think?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001electra
I had no engine light on before or now. It was running ok, I parked it overnight and now no fire. It spins over good. I tried using another plug while turning over engine and no spark.
Any idea what might keep it from firing?
I jumped across terminals 1 & 2 and if I turn it on once and leave it on the engine light will come on then go out, then blink 11 or 12 times really fast over end over again.
If I go through the procedure of ignition on,off,on,off, then on; I get no codes.
What do you think?
Is there a noticable pause between the 12 flashes?

Do you have an electrical service manual? If not I would get one and try go through troubleshooting with it.

Have you checked your fuses? May get lucky and find a blown fuse.
 
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