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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DK Custom
There are things the PV can do that I really like, even on a Stage I, narrow band autotune, that I can't get (yet) from an FP3.
I assume you meant that it cant do a Wide band auto tune. The PV2 can't either unless you buy the $300 optional wide band auto tune kit for it. Granted there is no wide band add on for the FP3 yet. But when you consider the PV2 cost $200 more to begin with then spend another $300 for the wide band auto tune kit, you have to ask yourself if being able to do a wide band auto tune worth the extra $500 on a bike already equipped with narrow band sensors? The FP3 is limited to the Canbus equiped Harleys. The PV2 doesn't have that limitation and you can buy additional licenses for it for $199 so it can be used to tune more than 1 bike.

It all comes down to what you need or want the tuner to do and how much you want to spend.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg2012FLHTK
I assume you meant that it cant do a Wide band auto tune. The PV2 can't either unless you buy the $300 optional wide band auto tune kit for it. Granted there is no wide band add on for the FP3 yet. But when you consider the PV2 cost $200 more to begin with then spend another $300 for the wide band auto tune kit, you have to ask yourself if being able to do a wide band auto tune worth the extra $500 on a bike already equipped with narrow band sensors? The FP3 is limited to the Canbus equiped Harleys. The PV2 doesn't have that limitation and you can buy additional licenses for it for $199 so it can be used to tune more than 1 bike.

It all comes down to what you need or want the tuner to do and how much you want to spend.
No, I was not referring to wide band autotune. Of the 6 bikes at our shop running the PV, the only guy that has purchased and used the wide band kit is Devin for his Stage IV SGS.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nevada72
I selected the FP3 based on my simplistic needs. I will not be taking my bike to a tuning tech - I'm doing auto-tuning only. I have a high flow A/C and slip-ons - that's it. Maybe.....maybe catless down the road, but even that is doubtful. With that limited need in mind, I reasoned that the FP3 would be perfectly equal in functionality to the PV2.
Exactly the reason I went with the FP3 over the PV2. I do not plan to go beyond the high flow A/C and slip-ons in the future so the FP3 for about $150 less will serve my needs perfectly.

This is no different than when I ordered mail order tunes for my F150. There were two tuners that everyone swore by and which one was better depended on who you were talking to at the time and who they went with. I actually ended up ordering tunes from both of them for the truck and bottom line they were both good tuners and did what they advertised.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 07:37 PM
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Even after all the reading I've done on this site, I'm still torn between the fp3 and the pv2. Maybe I've read to much and need to just decide lol
 
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 08:59 PM
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I plan to do mufflers, headpipe, and AC at most, I am buying FP3.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 07:20 AM
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See this thread https://www.hdforums.com/forum/new-r...stage-one.html The stage 1 AC doesn't do anything for you but drain your pocket on a Rushmore.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg2012FLHTK
See this thread https://www.hdforums.com/forum/new-r...stage-one.html The stage 1 AC doesn't do anything for you but drain your pocket on a Rushmore.
I've been reading that one as well and still haven't gotten a definitive answer lol
 
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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I would love to see dyno results with Afr readings with both tuners on the same bike to see any real differences.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg2012FLHTK
See this thread https://www.hdforums.com/forum/new-r...stage-one.html The stage 1 AC doesn't do anything for you but drain your pocket on a Rushmore.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 95ci springer
I would love to see dyno results with Afr readings with both tuners on the same bike to see any real differences.


since both are flash tuners why not copy the tables from one tuner to the other so they both flash the same and then dyno to see if the dyno shows the same results.
are there any hidden tables left with PV2 or FP3 but built into their software and included in the flash, IDK


trying to tune the same bike with each will require a tuning guy proficient in both, the time lag involved cannot give the same results using the same dyno, same bike on different days so why expect different tuners on a dyno to compete fairly.
 
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