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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 14GuineaPig
I'd check that part number before buying it. I think it's the Brake master cylinder not the Clutch master cylinder.
You're totally right. What am I thinking... sheesh.

PN: 36700056 $334.99

Sorry guys. Thanks for the correction Mr. G-Pig.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 09:04 AM
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It is a problem with the tooling on the origional cylinder... When the warranty runs out on the 14's they will tell you need a new Master Cylinder until then they get by with a new plunger and o ring... http://www.hdforums.com/forum/new-ru...tf-harley.html
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lp
You're totally right. What am I thinking... sheesh.

PN: 36700056 $334.99

Sorry guys. Thanks for the correction Mr. G-Pig.
Yep. That price is more like what I expected. I'll try the rebuild kit first, if I have the problem again. If that doesn't work, I'll shell out the bucks for the whole shebang.

Right now, I just cycle the clutch daily, since I'm around the bike every day, anyway. So far, so good.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Slow Road
100,000 bikes with the clutch problem? Did Harley sell that many bikes? Man, I'm impressed.
That was just from a blurb I saw on a news site. Don't know if it's true or not, but they used that same junk part on every one of the Rushmore bikes for a long time, including mine, apparently. The recall did involve both '14 and '15 year models.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2015 | 09:13 PM
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whoa. Ease up on the engineers, there bud. Engineers are one link in a long line of stuff that has to go right to deliver you a dependable product. Vendors, parts pullers, assemblers, shipping techs, the guy setting up the bike at the dealer, the dude washing your bike, all have a chance to cause a problem with your ride. An engineer can design the best clutch cylinder known to mankind, but if the dude yanking it out of the mold doesn't care, you get a bad part. Just sayin.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2015 | 06:16 PM
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Update: The problem hasn't re-occurred (so far). I just pump the clutch a couple of times every day or so and that may be why. As long as it keeps on working as it should, I'm gonna just consider it a one-time glitch.

One thing, though. When I did the 1000 mile service two days ago, I found that fluid had seeped up the clutch master cylinder cover screw threads and was pooling around the head of the outboard screw. I took the cover off and the reservoir was over-filled - as in almost running over when I took the cover and gasket off with the top of the reservoir level.

I removed some of the fluid to make the level slightly lower than the bottom of the gasket and called it good. I don't see how that could have caused my original problem, but maybe...
 

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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow Road
100,000 bikes with the clutch problem? Did Harley sell that many bikes? Man, I'm impressed.
Here's a link to the site that claimed those numbers. Don't know if it's accurate or not. I think it may involve both recalls combined, which in many cases involved the same bikes twice.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/09/30/h...clutch-problem

Still a ****-load of bikes with a problem that boils down to the MOCO cheaping-out every chance it gets and getting bitten in the *** because of it.

They never learn...
 

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Old Jul 26, 2015 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by wwiiavfan
whoa. Ease up on the engineers, there bud. Engineers are one link in a long line of stuff that has to go right to deliver you a dependable product. Vendors, parts pullers, assemblers, shipping techs, the guy setting up the bike at the dealer, the dude washing your bike, all have a chance to cause a problem with your ride. An engineer can design the best clutch cylinder known to mankind, but if the dude yanking it out of the mold doesn't care, you get a bad part. Just sayin.
After seeing some of the crap that the engineers at the MOCO have come up with over the last few decades, I stand by my original assessment of their (lack of) abilities.

I wasn't bashing ALL engineers, just the brain-dead hacks at the MOCO.
 
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[QUOTE=It's just sad and pathetic that the MOCO is clearly unable (apparently) to design a simple system that works.[/QUOTE]

Oh they can!! my 2005 FLHTCSE2 performed flawlessly (for the 32,000 miles I had it) as did all the other Hydraulic clutches of that era. God only knows what they've done to the 14's and later clutches, but you're right they ought to sort this chit out!!

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Originally Posted by Custardglide
Oh they can!! my 2005 FLHTCSE2 performed flawlessly (for the 32,000 miles I had it) as did all the other Hydraulic clutches of that era. God only knows what they've done to the 14's and later clutches, but you're right they ought to sort this chit out!!

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That's the one thing that the MOCO is absolutely unequaled at doing - taking a proven, reliable and durable design and totally F-ing it up!
 
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