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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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Yeah... but having a dealer buy it from you is rarely the best deal... that's the point I was making.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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Yeah... but having a dealer buy it from you is rarely the best deal... that's the point I was making.
It was going to be a trade in. As soft as the motorcycle market is here I don't really want to try and sell it
 
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RIPSAW
Shops have made tons of money on this. And of course their converts that fell for the coolaid will jump in here and keep filling their shops.
What coolaid? I've replaced three very noisy comps on three bikes. Where did I go wrong?

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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 02:28 PM
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What coolaid? I've replaced three very noisy comps on three bikes. Where did I go wrong?

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Only since you ask my opinion will I relate my opinion and thought. If you put enough miles on it and flog the crap out of it, then I guess yours needed it.

In my opinion, if your diagnosis determine it was bad, you took it apart and saw what was bad and replaced it yourself, then you ought to know. Usually, its the fingers making the noise and it truely hurts nothing. It sure is not going to leave you setting on the side of the road. So if you did all what I have said, then, there is no coolaid. If you listened to the service guy and paid them to do it, I think the coolaid was pretty sweet.

I spent the last 30 years of my career around hundreds of NC Machines that used Belville spring packs to retain tooling powered my high horsepower drives. Rarely did we ever have spring breakage. Those cup springs can only go flat, so they are never stretched beyond the steels elastic limit.

Now if the quality of them is China poor, then maybe you have a point. I personally have only see a couple springs on here broken and in this case was a older model with the welded setup and somehow someone ripped it apart.
 

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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 05:12 PM
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I thought the shims were to align the compensator and clutch sprockets.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 05:55 PM
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I thought the shims were to align the compensator and clutch sprockets.
Back a few years before 2004,. ( Not sure exact year) Harley had part numbers for about 6-10 shims in increments that went behind sprocket adapter. They were used to shim front sprocket to align with rear within a tolerance listed.

By 2004 (for sure) Harley had gone to precision part lengths to speed assembly lines. Those spacers mentioned above do not space sprocket off back side coming out from engine. The nut on the front does not stop on them either. The comp spacers and only on the SE comp with them add some pre-load to the Belville springs.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 08:42 PM
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A couple years ago when my comp was being replaced by a H-D shop, they used spacers with it. 2016RGU with stock comp.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2019 | 08:53 PM
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A couple years ago when my comp was being replaced by a H-D shop, they used spacers with it. 2016RGU with stock comp.

I'm no expert....

The shims/spacers I posted about in post #11 are for noisy comps. They put more preload on the springs, to stop some of the noise of a "sloppy" comp. I don't believe it affects the sprocket alignment, but rather wear on ramps, springs...

I suspect the shims/spacers are a band-aide for worn comps to delay the cost of a new compensator....
 

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Old Oct 8, 2019 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RIPSAW
Only since you ask my opinion will I relate my opinion and thought. If you put enough miles on it and flog the crap out of it, then I guess yours needed it.

In my opinion, if your diagnosis determine it was bad, you took it apart and saw what was bad and replaced it yourself, then you ought to know. Usually, its the fingers making the noise and it truely hurts nothing. It sure is not going to leave you setting on the side of the road. So if you did all what I have said, then, there is no coolaid. If you listened to the service guy and paid them to do it, I think the coolaid was pretty sweet.

I spent the last 30 years of my career around hundreds of NC Machines that used Belville spring packs to retain tooling powered my high horsepower drives. Rarely did we ever have spring breakage. Those cup springs can only go flat, so they are never stretched beyond the steels elastic limit.

Now if the quality of them is China poor, then maybe you have a point. I personally have only see a couple springs on here broken and in this case was a older model with the welded setup and somehow someone ripped it apart.
THAT"S IT! Poor quality mechanics is not "coolaid". And there are way to many comps going bad to call the problem a conspiracy. I'm not sure there is a perfect fix, but yes you are right, I have to ride my bike like grandma was on the back to save my comps. Didn't have an issue with my Evo or 88s.

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Old Oct 12, 2019 | 09:44 AM
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There is another thread about noisy comps. The consensus is babying the bikes seemed to cause noisey comps, not the ones ridden hard. I ride mine like I stole it and the original comp was replaced at over 40 000.. It wasn't even noisy, I had it apart for a clutch and noticed a lot of wear on the ramps so I replaced it at the same time. I have 20 000 trouble free miles on the new one. Lugging the motor is hard on them.
 
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