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Old Aug 8, 2023 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by M Oclaf
When building GBU-12’s, 10’s, 24’s, etc we always used a torque wrench, spec was 600 ft lbs…was a team effort, minimum of 3 dudes…obsolete now with satellite guidance.
Why did you use a torque wrench on something that was designed to blow up in the end anyway?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2023 | 08:42 PM
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The O ring is on the shoulder of the drain plug and goes into the counter bore as shown here on this M8 oil pan so the O-ring is not being tightened against. Next time I will use my air impact wrench at the highest setting.lol



 
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Old Aug 8, 2023 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Why did you use a torque wrench on something that was designed to blow up in the end anyway?
ha ha… good question. Ever seen one? The guidance unit goes on the front, basically the ‘bolt’ as it’s called, threads into the front fuze well, but initially the airflow over the front fins/canards/wingslets, would cause the bolt and unit to spin off. Originally the fix was “more torque!”, and as we could only source wrenches up to 300, so there is a ‘doubler’ as it was called. Fun times! Not! However prior to the sat nav creation, it was redesigned to where four actual bolts were used on the larger bolt, blah, blah, blah…I had the great misfortune to work on some serious and sometimes classified systems with regard to explosives. It came with my desire to learn and apply. Usually selected for those things mainly for drive and attention to detail. As well as long hours and military is salary. Low salaries, but not a bad thing. One either grabbed the opportunity or ran from it. Many ran. Wouldn’t change a thing. Also you have to be where crazy **** is tested. Many don’t like going to BFE. I generally got any assignments I asked for as they were just that, **** assignments to many. And it wasn’t because I was “smart” I just didn’t go with the flow so to speak.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2023 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by M Oclaf
ha ha… good question. Ever seen one? The guidance unit goes on the front, basically the ‘bolt’ as it’s called, threads into the front fuze well, but initially the airflow over the front fins/canards/wingslets, would cause the bolt and unit to spin off. Originally the fix was “more torque!”, and as we could only source wrenches up to 300, so there is a ‘doubler’ as it was called. Fun times! Not! However prior to the sat nav creation, it was redesigned to where four actual bolts were used on the larger bolt, blah, blah, blah…I had the great misfortune to work on some serious and sometimes classified systems with regard to explosives. It came with my desire to learn and apply. Usually selected for those things mainly for drive and attention to detail. As well as long hours and military is salary. Low salaries, but not a bad thing. One either grabbed the opportunity or ran from it. Many ran. Wouldn’t change a thing. Also you have to be where crazy **** is tested. Many don’t like going to BFE. I generally got any assignments I asked for as they were just that, **** assignments to many. And it wasn’t because I was “smart” I just didn’t go with the flow so to speak.
Not ever seen one up close.. Just googled it.. So it would fall apart before hitting the target.. Interesting..
 
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Old Aug 9, 2023 | 09:05 AM
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Boy this thread sure got off topic. Well I torque the zener diodes on my lawn mower with baby oil. so there!
 
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Originally Posted by M Oclaf
When building GBU-12’s, 10’s, 24’s, etc we always used a torque wrench, spec was 600 ft lbs…was a team effort, minimum of 3 dudes…obsolete now with satellite guidance.
Torque on the crankpin nut on 5 pc older HD flywheels is 400 ft lbs. That's fun on a nut that has less than 1/4" of shoulder to bite on. When they changed the taper it went down to 250 thankfully.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken45
The O ring is on the shoulder of the drain plug and goes into the counter bore as shown here on this M8 oil pan so the O-ring is not being tightened against. Next time I will use my air impact wrench at the highest setting.lol

Yeah, we are way out in the weeds with this thread, now! Did you not also get the Fueling Short Sump plug that goes in there?? Did you torque it?

I must admit, when I installed my short plug, I did not...

Anyhow, let us know if you decide to go with a manual chain adjuster, after all.

Still planning to do mine this weekend.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2023 | 01:35 PM
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Not ever seen one up close.. Just googled it.. So it would fall apart before hitting the target.. Interesting..
that was In initial testing back in the 70’s, Texas Instruments originally developed the technology. By the time it got to the field, they found a solution.

During combat operations, sometimes it’s a simple thing, a thing that makes no sense or it’s an engineered solution. So long as we could put steel on target, nothing else matters.

I joked during desert storm, if our cluster bombs we were packing and sending to the desert didn’t kill them, the tetanus would from all the rust. ‘Nam era clusters. But we did clear some old AF inventory during that campaign. I was a munitions inspector, signed off on assets being redeployed.

Had some fun with it, we would put playboy mags and such in the documents holder. All containers have them and once signed and sealed, no jurisdiction can touch. Only the recipient which was people in my career field, another inspector. We would put beers in bomb fuze wells. Had to take care of our own.
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Old Aug 10, 2023 | 01:37 PM
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No torquing the oil plug!
 
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Originally Posted by NorthWestern
Yeah, we are way out in the weeds with this thread, now! Did you not also get the Fueling Short Sump plug that goes in there?? Did you torque it?

I must admit, when I installed my short plug, I did not...

Anyhow, let us know if you decide to go with a manual chain adjuster, after all.

Still planning to do mine this weekend.
I used the factory magnetic plugs that came in it with new O rings. There is a good length of thread in the pan. I put the plugs in by hand and for the last few turns there is some resistance, that is the O ring going into the counter bore of the pan and then the plug stops turning because it is seated. Then I gave it a bit of extra tightening once seated. It actually did not turn any more. When I took them out they were not even seated and it was the interference fit of the O ring in the counter bore that was holding them in. I do not have a dependable torque wrench in that range, if I did I would have used it. I should get a good in/lb 3/8" drive torque wrench. Maybe someday. I took the $70 primary gasket back and decided no to open the primary. I had a few people tell me I did not need to check it, it is a stock 107. The oil did not have metal in it and the magnetic plug had minimal fillings on it. I drain my oils in a white plastic Tupper ware pan, this lets me look at the used oil better for contaminants.
 
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