View Poll Results: What have you done to the stock EPA tune on Harley

Nothing I run it stock

35.58%

Xied and am happy

9.20%

Tried Xied and then went to a tuner

5.52%

Went right to tuner with stage one

49.69%

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Jun 25, 2014 | 12:21 PM

#11

SafetyMan

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Originally Posted by jcapps

A friend recently sold his 2014 with 4k miles. He had a tuner he added after 2000 miles of riding with aftermarket ac and header. His piston is prolly burned 1/2 through. I would never buy a used bike with a tuner
I would think that with a true poll it would be nice to see all opinions

Reading this, could a reasonable person also make the arguement that the damage occurred prior to installing the tuner?

Thus making it the fault of running "aftermarket ac and header" with no tuner?

Jun 25, 2014 | 02:56 PM

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sixguns

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Originally Posted by jcapps

His piston is prolly burned 1/2 through.

Well, that word right there "prolly" what does that mean, did he burn a piston or not?

Jun 25, 2014 | 02:58 PM

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Jackie Paper

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Now I see why there are so many problems with Harleys...

Jun 25, 2014 | 04:16 PM

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oakmossy

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Now I see why there are so many problems with Harleys...

here we go!

Jun 25, 2014 | 04:54 PM

#15

jcapps

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From: Southern NY, known as Florida

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Originally Posted by SafetyMan

Reading this, could a reasonable person also make the arguement that the damage occurred prior to installing the tuner?

Thus making it the fault of running "aftermarket ac and header" with no tuner?

No a reasonable person could not. The MOCO spent millions figuring it out. My friend was told not to do the ac and exhaust unless he was either going to do a download or a tuner. He road with neither for over 2k miles.

Every one can believe as they want. I believe in the moco when it comes to engineering and specs for the motors they designed, researched and developed. Not a small aftermarket company. I have yet to be swayed otherwise when it comes to the 14s

Jun 25, 2014 | 04:56 PM

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jcapps

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From: Southern NY, known as Florida

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Originally Posted by sixguns

Well, that word right there "prolly" what does that mean, did he burn a piston or not?

Who knows but it was lean as hell for 2k miles. Would you buy that bike if you knew those circumstances?

Jun 25, 2014 | 04:58 PM

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hvacgaspiping

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Originally Posted by hapbob

I guess it could be a defective poll. But since I wasn't considering the dealer download I didn't think to include. I avoid dealers...
Already interesting that 1/3 of people just leave stock?
Hap

The reason my guess would be because a Harley is expensive to begin with, and most in this group will wait before doing mods.

Jun 25, 2014 | 06:09 PM

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RushKing14

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Originally Posted by SafetyMan

Reading this, could a reasonable person also make the arguement that the damage occurred prior to installing the tuner?

Thus making it the fault of running "aftermarket ac and header" with no tuner?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcapps

jcapps, it appears you might have made SafetyMan's argument for him here. Your friend was told NOT to run it without either A) the dealer download or B) a tuner if he had the A/C and exhaust, but if I am reading this correctly, he DID run it that way for over 2K miles creating a much leaner condition that stock. That could very well have caused some damage prior to the tuner it seems to me.

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Jun 25, 2014 | 06:49 PM

#19

2011FXDC

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Still stock. Just have slip-ons, stock catted head pipe and stock AC. Probably going to stay that way.

Jun 25, 2014 | 09:39 PM

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jcapps

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From: Southern NY, known as Florida

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Originally Posted by mjinks61

Point is he could have done the moco download and been done. But after 2k miles he bought a tuner (no names) and struggled with it for at least 500 miles and then all it did was fart, spit and decal pop till he sold the bike

No thanks I will stick with the dealer download.......................for now

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