2020 Breakout 114
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2020 Breakout 114
Hello everyone! I am Cj and new to the forums and this is my first ever Harley.. Traded in a Ninja 636 last Saturday and very excited about this Breakout. I just have some questions to ask and all perspectives are welcomed.
1. With the fellowship rides I got coming up, I can see getting 1000 miles very soon and that is when the first service is advised. I was thinking about letting the dealership do the first one then do the rest myself there on out. or I also thought about doing the first and all of them myself.,. Has anyone ever performed the 1K service themselves?
2. I know the engine takes 20/50 4.5 to 5 quarts. Do you use the same type of oil for the primary or the primary and transmission use the same? Please advise. Thank you in advanced
Cj
1. With the fellowship rides I got coming up, I can see getting 1000 miles very soon and that is when the first service is advised. I was thinking about letting the dealership do the first one then do the rest myself there on out. or I also thought about doing the first and all of them myself.,. Has anyone ever performed the 1K service themselves?
2. I know the engine takes 20/50 4.5 to 5 quarts. Do you use the same type of oil for the primary or the primary and transmission use the same? Please advise. Thank you in advanced
Cj
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I bought a Harley Service Manual for my bike, it has a maintenance schedule I used for my 1k service.
I use three different oils in my bikes, get some ideas from the oil section: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/oil-a...ted-topics-30/
I use three different oils in my bikes, get some ideas from the oil section: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/oil-a...ted-topics-30/
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Welcome to the forum and the world of HD. If you have even basic mechanical ability, all the services on your bike are rather easy. Doing your own service does not void your warranty. You are required to have ability and to document the service. Likes OldMike said, get your self a factory service manual. Get the real deal from your dealer. It is worth the extra$$. The electronic versions are illegal bootlegs and don't work well. You will also need a hanging scale like the ones used to weigh fish. The procedure to measure steering head fall away has changed and a scale is now required. I got one on Amazon for cheap. Berkley is a good brand. I use 20/50 in the crankcase and Formula+ in both primary and trans. I use the HD brand of oils, as this is the only recommended product by the manufacturer, while under warranty and save the receipts in case of issue. I'm not sure they would get that picky if there where an issue, but I have that base covered. I also adhere to the limits in regards to break-in procedure, as rpms are documented in the ECM. I do accel and decel hard up and down hills to ensure everything gets seated properly and at 500Mi. let her rip.
Good luck and enjoy that Breakout! In the days when we were building custom bikes, This design was my target. Now you can roll one off the showroom floor!!
Good luck and enjoy that Breakout! In the days when we were building custom bikes, This design was my target. Now you can roll one off the showroom floor!!
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I bought a Harley Service Manual for my bike, it has a maintenance schedule I used for my 1k service.
I use three different oils in my bikes, get some ideas from the oil section: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/oil-a...ted-topics-30/
I use three different oils in my bikes, get some ideas from the oil section: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/oil-a...ted-topics-30/
Thank you for the response and the link! I appreciate it!
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Welcome to the forum and the world of HD. If you have even basic mechanical ability, all the services on your bike are rather easy. Doing your own service does not void your warranty. You are required to have ability and to document the service. Likes OldMike said, get your self a factory service manual. Get the real deal from your dealer. It is worth the extra$$. The electronic versions are illegal bootlegs and don't work well. You will also need a hanging scale like the ones used to weigh fish. The procedure to measure steering head fall away has changed and a scale is now required. I got one on Amazon for cheap. Berkley is a good brand. I use 20/50 in the crankcase and Formula+ in both primary and trans. I use the HD brand of oils, as this is the only recommended product by the manufacturer, while under warranty and save the receipts in case of issue. I'm not sure they would get that picky if there where an issue, but I have that base covered. I also adhere to the limits in regards to break-in procedure, as rpms are documented in the ECM. I do accel and decel hard up and down hills to ensure everything gets seated properly and at 500Mi. let her rip.
Good luck and enjoy that Breakout! In the days when we were building custom bikes, This design was my target. Now you can roll one off the showroom floor!!
Good luck and enjoy that Breakout! In the days when we were building custom bikes, This design was my target. Now you can roll one off the showroom floor!!
thank you! I will do that.. the service manual cost $139.99 and I did see a eBootleg on ebay for 15 bucks. but pardon my ignorance 20/50 in the crank case I do know is oil, the Formula+ you mentioned that is not oil but something different correct?
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Welcome aboard!
It's very easy to do your own basic service tasks, such as changing oil and filter, checking torques on bolts, etc. As long as you:
1. Have the proper tools.
2. Know how to use them.
3. Are patient. (If something won't come off, the next step is NOT to get a bigger hammer.)
Personally, I had the dealership do the first one, just so there were no potential future warranty issues, and then I did all the rest myself. At $400 a whack, you can save a lot of money for bling and beer!
Have fun, and ride safe!
It's very easy to do your own basic service tasks, such as changing oil and filter, checking torques on bolts, etc. As long as you:
1. Have the proper tools.
2. Know how to use them.
3. Are patient. (If something won't come off, the next step is NOT to get a bigger hammer.)
Personally, I had the dealership do the first one, just so there were no potential future warranty issues, and then I did all the rest myself. At $400 a whack, you can save a lot of money for bling and beer!
Have fun, and ride safe!
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There is an oil thread here:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/oil-a...ted-topics-30/
Check it out.
IMHO, you don't want the same oil in all 3 holes but there are riders and Dealers who do it. Best just browse the link.
Welcome and good luck.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/oil-a...ted-topics-30/
Check it out.
IMHO, you don't want the same oil in all 3 holes but there are riders and Dealers who do it. Best just browse the link.
Welcome and good luck.
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Formula + is an oil of an unspecified viscosity. It is basically a conventional gear oil and is the only oil that HD recommends for trans and primary. You will get many opinions and recommendations on this forum. Most of them are very good. I stick with conventional and change it on schedule. You will be glad to go with the real service manual. It will be your first source of reference. After you familiarize yourself with a procedure in the manual, you can watch a youtube video and search this forum for additional help. If you get stuck on something, you can count on forum members for advice.
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Welcome aboard!
It's very easy to do your own basic service tasks, such as changing oil and filter, checking torques on bolts, etc. As long as you:
1. Have the proper tools.
2. Know how to use them.
3. Are patient. (If something won't come off, the next step is NOT to get a bigger hammer.)
Personally, I had the dealership do the first one, just so there were no potential future warranty issues, and then I did all the rest myself. At $400 a whack, you can save a lot of money for bling and beer!
Have fun, and ride safe!
It's very easy to do your own basic service tasks, such as changing oil and filter, checking torques on bolts, etc. As long as you:
1. Have the proper tools.
2. Know how to use them.
3. Are patient. (If something won't come off, the next step is NOT to get a bigger hammer.)
Personally, I had the dealership do the first one, just so there were no potential future warranty issues, and then I did all the rest myself. At $400 a whack, you can save a lot of money for bling and beer!
Have fun, and ride safe!
My heart is leaning in that direction.. have the dealership do it first since its the most crutial one due to the metal particals in the fluids and then do the rest myself.. I did the first one on my ninja when I first bought her.. that was at 600 miles and the motor oil handled the engine and the drivetrain so it was that simplistic but this hoss of an engine is different and I want to be super careful, especially with 2 or possibly 3 different types of fluilds.. Thank you for your perspective
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There is an oil thread here:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/oil-a...ted-topics-30/
Check it out.
IMHO, you don't want the same oil in all 3 holes but there are riders and Dealers who do it. Best just browse the link.
Welcome and good luck.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/oil-a...ted-topics-30/
Check it out.
IMHO, you don't want the same oil in all 3 holes but there are riders and Dealers who do it. Best just browse the link.
Welcome and good luck.
Thank you for your perspective!