FP3 - Anyone have any concerns about it?
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From: East Flanders - Belgium
Do you get a return on your investment with the tuner?
If you plan on having many bikes and you plan on keeping a few at a time I would look at getting the PV as you only need to get additional licenses and not the tuner hardware.
If this is your one and only motorcycle then you pays your money...
If you plan on having many bikes and you plan on keeping a few at a time I would look at getting the PV as you only need to get additional licenses and not the tuner hardware.
If this is your one and only motorcycle then you pays your money...
I have a FP3 per Harley so I have 5 pcs at this time, a bike is not an investment neither are the parts you buy for them, it is al a waste of money
Oh yeah I have a PV to, I bought that one one for my FXFBS and took it straight of again and bought another FP3, the PV is stored to see never
daylight again.
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The wideband tuning kit is the ideal solution for road tuning as you can tune the entire operating range with closed-loop O2 sensor feedback. You get a perfect road tune using your phone and then switch back to the stock narrowband sensors which now have near perfect VE tables to work with.
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Once in autotune mode the FP3 works the bike in closed loop mode. It is probably why V&H tell you the engine might run poorly whilst it is doing its work.
The difference is that the wideband sensor can give an exact value of how rich or lean the mixture is as opposed to the narrow band that only informs rich, lean or ideal.
The difference is that the wideband sensor can give an exact value of how rich or lean the mixture is as opposed to the narrow band that only informs rich, lean or ideal.
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Primary Throttle Blade Control
Secondary Throttle Blade Control
Switchover Gear
Throttle Limit vs Gear
Front Cylinder VE
Rear Cylinder VE
Front Charge Dilution Effect
Rear Charge Dilution Effect
Air Fuel Ratio
Acceleration Enrichment
Deceleration Enleanment
Closed Loop Range
Closed Loop Min Activation Temp
MAP Load Normalization
Intake Valve Opening
Intake Valve Closing
Adaptive Control Min Temp
Front Cylinder Spark Advance
Rear Cylinder Spark Advance
Spark Adjust by Engine Temp
Spark Adjust by Air Temp
Spark Adjust by Head Temp
Adaptive Knock Retard
Max Knock Retard
Knock Control Min Activation Temp
Knock Control Deactivation Temp
Idle Spark Control Gain
Idle Spark Control Max
Front Closed Throttle Spark
Rear Closed Throttle Spark
Closed Throttle Max TPS
PE Air Fuel Ratio
PE Spark
PE Disable RPM
PE Enable RPM
PE Disable TPS
PE Enable TPS
IAC Crank Steps vs Temp
IAC Crank Steps to Run
IAC Warmup
Idle RPM
Injector Size
Engine Displacement
Rev Limit
Gear Ratios
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From: California
The wideband tuning kit is the ideal solution for road tuning as you can tune the entire operating range with closed-loop O2 sensor feedback. You get a perfect road tune using your phone and then switch back to the stock narrowband sensors which now have near perfect VE tables to work with.
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From: California
Once in autotune mode the FP3 works the bike in closed loop mode. It is probably why V&H tell you the engine might run poorly whilst it is doing its work.
The difference is that the wideband sensor can give an exact value of how rich or lean the mixture is as opposed to the narrow band that only informs rich, lean or ideal.
The difference is that the wideband sensor can give an exact value of how rich or lean the mixture is as opposed to the narrow band that only informs rich, lean or ideal.
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Can you log data, and edit maps offline on a computer with these things yet? [EDIT: ADD] ...and what about logging spark knock?
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I only know of using a real time sensor display of ignition timing to look for knock retard. You can run a screen recording while using the sensor data display that has four channels set to front spark advance, rear spark advance, RPM, and Manifold Absolute Pressure.
This is everything you need to check the timing. Just playback the recording after you ride. Good enough for a home user.
Last edited by Hulkss; Apr 20, 2020 at 04:24 PM.