2018+ Softail Models Breakout

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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil13
The Blue wire carries the power for the position light, so I would check the sockets you have crimped on for that connection and the black earth wire. Logically, it can only be one or both of those if the unit isn't faulty.

You can also swap the front signals over and see if the fault switches over with them to check the signal unit.
I m really a goat when it comes to this problem.How do I remove them?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
The description suggests the fronts have an outer ring but looking at the picture it looks like a single filament bulb insert and not dual.

Front Signature LED Turn Signal Inserts - 67801184 | Harley-Davidson EU

I think the fronts should look like these but these are described as for the rear.

Rear Signature LED Turn Signal Inserts - 67801329 | Harley-Davidson EU
Yes, see what you mean, but they both mention, "The light pipe outer “signature” ring adds visibility and unique styling, while brilliant center LED elements flash with an eye-catching signal,"

So
 
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 03:54 AM
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I m really a goat when it comes to this problem.How do I remove them?
Can you just confirm exactly what you've fitted and where? With part no's please.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil13
Can you just confirm exactly what you've fitted and where? With part no's please.
I installed in the front [size=17px]67801184
and rear[/size][size=17px]67801151.
I managed to remove the front signal and swapped side but still it works just the yellow signal light[/size]
 
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AlfredoDK
I installed in the front [size=17px]67801184
and rear[/size][size=17px]67801151.
I managed to remove the front signal and swapped side but still it works just the yellow signal light[/size]
Ok, so

One front signal, 67801184 has position light and turn signal?

One front signal, 67801184 has turn signal only?


You need to swap both signals over, left signal to the right and right signal to the left. This will show if the signal or the wiring is faulty.

If you have swapped both over and the signal that had position and turn, still has position and turn, then the fault is not wiring related.

If you have swapped both over and the signal that had the position light fault, still has the position light fault, that signal is faulty.

This takes two minutes to say and ten minutes to type so it reads logically

 
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Originally Posted by Phil13
Ok, so

One front signal, 67801184 has position light and turn signal?

One front signal, 67801184 has turn signal only?


You need to swap both signals over, left signal to the right and right signal to the left. This will show if the signal or the wiring is faulty.

If you have swapped both over and the signal that had position and turn, still has position and turn, then the fault is not wiring related.

If you have swapped both over and the signal that had the position light fault, still has the position light fault, that signal is faulty.

This takes two minutes to say and ten minutes to type so it reads logically
both signal has no position light,just the turn signal works
 
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 04:37 AM
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I would suspect Andy was right and the EU version doesn't offer the running light option then. The part no. isn't recognised by the US site.

If you really want running lights using OEM, then you would need someone to buy and ship them from the US. Failing that the aftermarket awaits
 
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil13
I would suspect Andy was right and the EU version doesn't offer the running light option then. The part no. isn't recognised by the US site.

If you really want running lights using OEM, then you would need someone to buy and ship them from the US. Failing that the aftermarket awaits
I will definitely check that,that's one of the reason why I went with oem signal because I wanted that position light.Trying to get in touch with the HD dealer in DK even if is easier to get in touch with the Queen 🤯.
Thank you for the help

I realise the one I got is amber/amber and the US model for my fxlr 2018 it should be [size=17px]67801148 amber/white[/size]
 

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The 2018 EU bikes (my FatBoy anyway) only have two wires going from 1156 bulb socket in bullet indicator down to the 4 pin JAE under the tank. US bikes with position and turn have 1157 bulb sockets and 3 wires in the cable.

The 67801184 doesn't say it has a position light, but says there is a "signature ring" ...whatever that is. Given there are only two wires best I can see is it flashing along with the centre LEDs

If you want positions on the front you will need new lights and cables down to the tank
 
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Old Aug 6, 2022 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordon61
The 2018 EU bikes (my FatBoy anyway) only have two wires going from 1156 bulb socket in bullet indicator down to the 4 pin JAE under the tank. US bikes with position and turn have 1157 bulb sockets and 3 wires in the cable.

The 67801184 doesn't say it has a position light, but says there is a "signature ring" ...whatever that is. Given there are only two wires best I can see is it flashing along with the centre LEDs

If you want positions on the front you will need new lights and cables down to the tank
This is the answer.

The connector in the neck of the bike does have three wires - IIRC black, blue and white. The black and blue are the ground and power for the turn signal. The white is power for position lights.

But - on EU bikes, the wiring from the connector in the neck to the turn signals is only two wires - the blue and black. If your replacement turn signal has three wires, and you bring all three back to the connectors in the neck and fit them accordingly, then you can run turn signals with position lights. If only two wires, then turn signals is all you get.

On my old FatBob, I fitted HeinzBikes LED turn signals with position lights. These had three wires, all of which went all the way back to the connectors in the neck of the bike. Turns signals and position lights, no problem.

By the way - how are you doing Gordon?
 
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