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Old May 10, 2023 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chopper_man
It should never reach "full" hot or cold. Your owners manual calls out it should be mid-way between.
That isn't what my Breakout owner's manual says.





There is a cold check procedure, but hot checks are the only reliable way to do it.
 
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Old May 10, 2023 | 10:10 AM
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Pretty simple, right? Hot engine to full mark, cold engine halfway.

Done.
 
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Old May 10, 2023 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Old New Rider
Pretty simple, right? Hot engine to full mark, cold engine halfway.

Done.

Nope.. depends what you want. If you do the cold, your not done if you want the hot.
 
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:36 PM
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Nope.. depends what you want. If you do the cold, your not done if you want the hot.
This makes no sense. The manual says either is fine, not that you have to perform both.
 
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Old May 10, 2023 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Old New Rider
This makes no sense. The manual says either is fine, not that you have to perform both.

Make sense to me. There are preference in life. Having it at the full mark always allows allowed me to have never added any oil between changes.

Especially after a lot of miles on it . If I had started at mid-stick and it got down to 1/4 stick, that would be a little annoying to me.

Now if it was 3/4 stick I would be happy and saw that back when I traveled . Even at your preference, I would still be fine.

So it makes sense to me and I am fine with how you want it. Just not how I want it
 
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Originally Posted by Jackie Paper
Make sense to me. There are preference in life. Having it at the full mark always allows allowed me to have never added any oil between changes.

Especially after a lot of miles on it . If I had started at mid-stick and it got down to 1/4 stick, that would be a little annoying to me.

Now if it was 3/4 stick I would be happy and saw that back when I traveled . Even at your preference, I would still be fine.

So it makes sense to me and I am fine with how you want it. Just not how I want it
Very well. We've never checked any other machine oil element doubly here, including automatic transmissions, which have the identical check procedures for hot and cold.
 
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Old May 10, 2023 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Old New Rider
Very well. We've never checked any other machine oil element doubly here, including automatic transmissions, which have the identical check procedures for hot and cold.

All cool. If you had read my original post way up there, I said the areas obviously never affect my Harley oil level.

However, my Cages for both the Power Steering and ATF can and do raise dramatically from the cold mark to the hot mark.

And if that's what you have found on your bike, obviously you sure don't want to go over the middle mark. I didn't either till I did the top line hot.

 
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Originally Posted by Jackie Paper
All cool. If you had read my original post way up there, I said the areas obviously never affect my Harley oil level.

However, my Cages for both the Power Steering and ATF can and do raise dramatically from the cold mark to the hot mark.

And if that's what you have found on your bike, obviously you sure don't want to go over the middle mark. I didn't either till I did the top line hot.
I remembered to check engine oil level hot tonight. Let sump oil drain 5 minutes post shutdown, then checked engine oil level. Expanded only a couple hash marks on dipstick, pic attached. I filled halfway on dipstick when cold. BUT - it was only 75F degrees out, cloudy so no reflected road heat, no wind. Rode 20 miles, mix city and rural, start stop and highway max 60 mph.

On air cooled engines I'd expect more oil expansion when it's 100F degrees out @ 90mph riding. So I don't plan to change anything. Yes it gets near 100F degrees here every summer in the American Siberia.

 
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Doing my oil change yesterday, it took 4 quarts, and 5oz to fill my oil filter, some spillage from putting it back on the bike, 4 quarts 4oz was perfect fill for my bike.
 
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Perfect opportunity for a new poll for someone.

Title it What is you perfect oil fill level or something on that lines.

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All ways middle of the stick.


I top off to full when hot.


It's hot enough around here that my cold middle of the stick reads full when bike is hot.


Anything else about it that's on your mind. If I do it, my trolls are just going to fuss and I only have a phone right now and polls and fat fingers don't work so well.


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