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Old May 20, 2023 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TriGeezer
BTW….you shouldn’t be putting the bike in neutral at a stop light. It reduced your escape from out of control idiot ability. When fractions of a second count, you don’t want to have to live your left foot off the ground, while shifting weight to the right, to jam down the shifter pm before accelerating out of harms way.
I only seek out neutral after a car or two behind me has come already to a complete stop. I also will tend to be in a "lane filtering" position, or have already lane filtered to the stop light / limit line at a red light, before puttng it in neutral. Usually to shake out my hand or exercise for blood circulation in my left hand.
 
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Old May 20, 2023 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Astro Glide
I only seek out neutral after a car or two behind me has come already to a complete stop. I also will tend to be in a "lane filtering" position, or have already lane filtered to the stop light / limit line at a red light, before puttng it in neutral. Usually to shake out my hand or exercise for blood circulation in my left hand.

Yup, I’ve done that too. One time I got rear ended, I had no place to go. There was construction. Lanes were compressed. Traffic came to an abrupt stop. So, I didn’t have the ability to leave a buffer in front of me…then "crunch". It was to my 2 month old Road King. I kept it up, and wasn’t hurt. But, both bags, rear fender and light were replaced.
 
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Old May 20, 2023 | 07:04 PM
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I'm always in neutral at stop lights. Gives me a chance to sip my hootch and relight my cigar.
 
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Old May 20, 2023 | 07:36 PM
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After break in I switched to Amsoil synthetic primary fluid,also use Amsoil in the engine and trans.
The first thing I noticed was smoother shifts and easier to get neutral,I still tend to snick it into neutral while still rolling out of habit.
The older bikes were always a PITA to get neutral if not moving a little,always had clutch drag unless everything was fresh and perfectly adjusted which never lasted very long.
 
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Old May 20, 2023 | 08:58 PM
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I even put the auto's in my truck and cars in neutral at stops (mainly due to watching trans temps while in drive). Motorcycles are always in neutral at stops, never been rear ended in 50+years.
But until this Harley always had high hp sport bikes and always aware of my surroundings.
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 11:54 AM
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I've been having trouble getting my 19 SGS into neutral. Plus all the all the loud banging noises when putting into gear and changing gears. So i just picked up couple bottles of the Formula+ to try in the transmission and primary. Hope this helps.
 
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Old May 23, 2023 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by madmaxz24
I've been having trouble getting my 19 SGS into neutral. Plus all the all the loud banging noises when putting into gear and changing gears. So i just picked up couple bottles of the Formula+ to try in the transmission and primary. Hope this helps.
If it's still noisy, try the 80w-140 Heavy Synthetic gear oil in both. I tend to think the issue lies in the primary case and clutch. Cold heavy fluid, even when the clutch is pulled in and the level is too high, will tend to keep the clutch and gears still spinning.

Things I've noticed help my first shift of the bike cold be smooth.

1. put the bike in 1st gear and rock the bike back and forth with the clutch released out fully. Find the distance exactly 1/2 way, then place in neutral.
2. Grab the front brake so you don't move at all, for or aft.
3. Start up the bike with the clutch fully pulled in. Keep it pulled all the way in.
4. Let bike come to an idle. My M8 Sport Glide usually idles down to 1350 rpm on a cold motor.
5. Put the bike in 1st gear.
6. Release the front brake, then start engaging clutch to take off.

9x out of 10, I get a very smooth snick into 1st gear doing it this way. The fore and aft in gear and getting dead nuts half way in between seems to line things up so it goes into gear nice and quiet.

Try it and let me know your results. YMMV, it seems to work regularly on my 2018 Sport Glide.
 

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Old May 23, 2023 | 07:28 PM
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From the little test ride i did, i still got some noise when putting in 1st gear, and some while changing gears. Maybe after a couple more rides it will quite down some more. Fingers crossed.
 
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Finding neutral on my 2022 Heritage is a bit easier than on my 2018 Heritage. It's about the same with Amsoil primary and transmission lube as it was with the "break-in" oil. Don't know if they made changes from 2018 to 2022. I think there are just differences from bike to bike.
 
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