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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Then Came Bronson
The Lyndall rotors are really nice, but holy **** they are expensive. They are a good $200 more per rotor compared to an equivalent Galfer. Not sure I could justify the extra cost for the Lyndall.
I think their mounting ring v/s buttons for the floating rotor is a significant contributor to their pricing
 
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Old Feb 6, 2024 | 12:50 PM
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I originally went with Galfer because of price and I could buy it at FuelMoto, but afterwards I started seeing Galfer Rotors everywhere in the performance world. Superbikes to King of the Baggers, Galfer's performance floating rotors are everywhere.
I'm really tempted to get that OG Garage caliper bracket, and one of Galfer's 13inch Rotors. If I can get their World Superbike rotor with a gold Carrier and red buttons like I have with my current rotor, It'd be too tempting to not buy.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2024 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII
If I can get their World Superbike rotor with a gold Carrier and red buttons like I have with my current rotor, It'd be too tempting to not buy.
I know it's a cool looking rotor, but the World Superbike rotor that Galfer makes would be gross overkill for any street riding Harley out there. Those rotors were designed for race use only, and are used in Moto 2, Moto 3, World Super Sport, and World Superbike racing out there. Not to mention they are over $500 per rotor, which makes them a pretty pricey option for your "street Harley" brakes.

I actually respect the fact that companies like Brembo won't even sell their brakes that are used in Moto GP to retail customers. You have to be a Moto GP Team to buy their calipers and rotors used at this level of riding. Even if you had a connection to buy these components, they are crazy expensive...I'm talking $15K for a set of brakes.


 
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Old Feb 7, 2024 | 02:13 PM
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^^^^^^ I think I just saw those calipers & rotors at the MotoGP test still happening in Sepang
 
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Originally Posted by Then Came Bronson
I know it's a cool looking rotor, but the World Superbike rotor that Galfer makes would be gross overkill for any street riding Harley out there. Those rotors were designed for race use only, and are used in Moto 2, Moto 3, World Super Sport, and World Superbike racing out there. Not to mention they are over $500 per rotor, which makes them a pretty pricey option for your "street Harley" brakes.

I actually respect the fact that companies like Brembo won't even sell their brakes that are used in Moto GP to retail customers. You have to be a Moto GP Team to buy their calipers and rotors used at this level of riding. Even if you had a connection to buy these components, they are crazy expensive...I'm talking $15K for a set of brakes.
True. Most people dont ride harleys like I do. I have friends who want me to bring my Fat Boy to the track once it's done being built and tuned because they want to see how fast I can get it around the track.
I've reached the limit of my front OEM Brakes. I have faded my Galfer Front Wave Rotor setup in the twisties. Most people dont ride a Softail like it's a Ninja 650, but I do all the time.
So a 13inch WSBK rotor setup would be sick for me.

And 540$ a rotor is often cheaper than Lyndalls anywhere from 520 to 720$ per rotor.
A 13inch Wave Rotor is probably similar performance or something close, for 350$, plus the cost of the OG Garage caliper bracket around 130$.

 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 07:48 AM
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I ended up going with these
Arlen Ness Procross 11.8" Front Rotor For Harley 2006-2024 | 10% ($29.99) Off! - RevZilla

and some new EBC HH pads.
Should be getting them on in the next week or two with a new front tire.
Thanks to all who took the time to respond
 
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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Randol
I ended up going with these
Arlen Ness Procross 11.8" Front Rotor For Harley 2006-2024 | 10% ($29.99) Off! - RevZilla

and some new EBC HH pads.
Should be getting them on in the next week or two with a new front tire.
Thanks to all who took the time to respond
Thanks for posting - I looked at these and website says the also fit my FLHC. While my rotor isn't warped, the claim of course is these are better than the stock disc, so I might try. I'll have to call because I know nothing about retrofitting bike brakes, have only worked on cars and trucks.

Notes say these fit hub mounted and cast rims. Well, I have wire rims, so don't know.


"This product FITS your 2021 Harley Davidson Softail Heritage Classic FLHC
Fitment Notes & Exceptions
  • Fits wheels with hub mounted rotors only."
 
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Old Feb 25, 2024 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyway
Lyndalls have a lifetime warranty ands that’s one of the reasons I have them.
Lifetime Warranty? ...I didn't see a reference to that on their website ... Did I miss it? ... What does the warranty cover? Thanks

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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FranBunnyFFXII
True. Most people dont ride harleys like I do. I have friends who want me to bring my Fat Boy to the track once it's done being built and tuned because they want to see how fast I can get it around the track.
I've reached the limit of my front OEM Brakes. I have faded my Galfer Front Wave Rotor setup in the twisties. Most people dont ride a Softail like it's a Ninja 650, but I do all the time.
So a 13inch WSBK rotor setup would be sick for me.

And 540$ a rotor is often cheaper than Lyndalls anywhere from 520 to 720$ per rotor.
A 13inch Wave Rotor is probably similar performance or something close, for 350$, plus the cost of the OG Garage caliper bracket around 130$.
That's true. The purpose of wavy discs is to disperse heat more rapidly. If you don't overheat your brakes regularly it's an unnecessary expense.
They are lighter as well of course, which does reduce unsprung weight. If you've fitted $4000 carbon wheels to a sports bike it would be foolish not to fit the lightest discs as well, but I doubt you'd feel that benefit on most Harleys.

On the other hand, Galfer are about as good as discs get. They don't fit them to GP bikes for nothing. So you can be confident you're fitting the best.
When it comes to warping, I had a gen 1 KTM 1290 Superduke. They were notorious for warping their front discs. Many people rushed out and bought wavy Galfers thinking that would solve the problem. In fact it wasn't the discs but faulty machining on the wheel hubs which caused the discs to run slightly out of true and wear unevenly. This is more common on more makes of bike than people realise.
Anyone with groaning or dragging brakes should check the run-out on the mounting face of the wheel hub before they splash a lot of money on fancy discs.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2024 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Gimlet
That's true. The purpose of wavy discs is to disperse heat more rapidly. If you don't overheat your brakes regularly it's an unnecessary expense.
They are lighter as well of course, which does reduce unsprung weight. If you've fitted $4000 carbon wheels to a sports bike it would be foolish not to fit the lightest discs as well, but I doubt you'd feel that benefit on most Harleys.

On the other hand, Galfer are about as good as discs get. They don't fit them to GP bikes for nothing. So you can be confident you're fitting the best.
When it comes to warping, I had a gen 1 KTM 1290 Superduke. They were notorious for warping their front discs. Many people rushed out and bought wavy Galfers thinking that would solve the problem. In fact it wasn't the discs but faulty machining on the wheel hubs which caused the discs to run slightly out of true and wear unevenly. This is more common on more makes of bike than people realise.
Anyone with groaning or dragging brakes should check the run-out on the mounting face of the wheel hub before they splash a lot of money on fancy discs.
Yeah my Galfer wave rotor and HH pads upgrade was significant, but I wish I had known about the larger rotors and caliper bracket.
I've decided that I'm going with the 13inch Galfer Wave Rotor, same colors, and the TTI 13inch brake caliper mount, as my final braking upgrade. The caliper bracket comes with ARP hardware.
It's what I should have done from the start.
I would love to do the GP4-RS conversion but it's vastly more expensive than doing a 13inch kit, and the amount of parts and work for the install is something I just don't want to do anymore.
A 13inch rotor+bracket is vastly less work and frustration, and is vastly unlikely to send me to the dealership to take care of an ABS light, or air in the lines.
I already need to swap an upper brake line so I can install my modular handlebars I built. I am not looking forward to that, but at least wiring them will be easy. Easy work with effective results is what I want.
13inch kit fits the bill perfectly.
 

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