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Changing battery on 2018+ Softail is NOT easy!

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Old Feb 28, 2024 | 10:03 PM
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Very poor design, not doing that job in the parking lot without a bunch of tools.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2024 | 10:42 PM
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Very poor design, not doing that job in the parking lot without a bunch of tools.
Yeah, you are correct. I had not thought about how you would replace a battery that fails suddenly while you are on a long trip with only very basic tools if any at all. Heck, you'd probably need a fldtdeck tow to a Harley dealer, and hopefully there'd BE one not hundreds of miles away.

Certainly not addressable in the parking lot of an auto parts store, evne if it happens to carry a suitable motorcycle battery.

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Old Feb 28, 2024 | 10:48 PM
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I just did mine about a month ago, I didn’t find it difficult. It took about 45min start too finish.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 10:24 AM
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good write up Jim, had me laughing.......and here I was thinking about taking the battery out
just for fun !
Miss the simplicity of the good old days.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by joenc
. . . here I was thinking about taking the battery out
just for fun !
If this is what you do for fun, you REALLY need to get out more!

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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
Yes, but Preston did not cover some of the things that someone inexperienced on the Softail, or on motorcycle maintneance in general, would not know. Like:
- How does the fuse holder box properly mount? (In fact, he did not even mention that the main fuse must be removed for the changeover)
- How do you uncouple the WSS connector without wrecking something? (Every electrical connector seems to have adifferent secret method)
He didn't mention lefty loosy righty tighty either. Some level of competency has to be assumed.
Every electrical connector is it's own mystery and minor hell. That's not new or a Harley special. Though almost without exception, it's either push something down or lift something up to release.

I really don't get the instructions about placing the off/run switch into the run position (really, the run position?), or the need to pull the main fuse.
Once you've disconnected the negative of the battery, all that is superfluous, power is cut.
If a bike is equipped with a siren (that's an add on, they don't come with it), and it has it's own power supply, I can see disconnecting that. Since the video bike didn't have it, it wasn't there to be disconnected.

he didn't cover what to do if accessories are connected directly to the battery either. Meah.

The job doesn't involve removing the fuse box, so I'm not sure why you're worried about describing how to do it or how to remount it.

Not an easy job, but not horrible either. I've certainly done worse battery replacements. But yes, it's not a quick and easy job either.

My note is I wouldn't simply tighten up the battery connectors with a phillips screwdriver. That often won't have them tight enough and they can vibrate themselves loose later. I'd use a wrench or nut driver myself. But that's just me.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 12:51 PM
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Heritage ain't no cakewalk either, A little 20L battery shoehorned into a hole with funky plastic brackets and alignment snap tabs is not my idea of great routing service item design.

More reasons to go lithium: higher power density to start same size engines as touring models with bigger batteries, don't have to replace as often as AGM, holds charge longer, don't need to charge over winter (if you shut bike electric down by pulling main fuse or neg terminal off batt).

I just paid the man the money for Lithium battery, btw.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2024 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by foxtrapper
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I really don't get the instructions about placing the off/run switch into the run position (really, the run position?), or the need to pull the main fuse.
Once you've disconnected the negative of the battery, all that is superfluous, power is cut.
If a bike is equipped with a siren (that's an add on, they don't come with it), and it has it's own power supply, I can see disconnecting that. Since the video bike didn't have it, it wasn't there to be disconnected.

he didn't cover what to do if accessories are connected directly to the battery either. Meah.

The job doesn't involve removing the fuse box, so I'm not sure why you're worried about describing how to do it or how to remount it.

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For a bike equipped with the security siren, there IS a good reason for placing the off/run switch on "run": When either the battery or the main fuse is disconnected, security system assumes the bike is being stolen and the power cut off to silence the security system. So, it uses its built-in separate battery to create an alarm, and if the optional siren is also present, it also sounds the siren. By turning the switch to "run" you indicate to the ECU that everyhting is normal, because it proves that a fob is present.

The reason HD insists on removing the main fuse is safety. They do this as a first step for almost all maintenance or repair work.

If you pull the main fuse with the off/run switch in the "off position", again, you activate the security system, because any rmeoval of power to the system activates its internal battery and generates an alarm.. So, this is why you need to turn the switch to "run" beforehand.

It is truly getting more and more complicated to do much of ANYTHING on the latest model bikes.

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Jim G, sorry for straying off topic, sort of.

Just my opinion based on purchasing ten different HD service manuals for various models over the years.

The techs that wrote the service manuals never intended it to be a step by step manual for a novice mechanic/tech. Instead, it was written for a mechanic/tech that has previous experience. If every single service procedure included a detailed explanation/image, the manual would be twice as thick, and cost twice as much as as it now.

I would compare it to a cookbook. If the recipe calls for a 1/4 cup of melted butter, the writer assumes the cook is experienced in melting butter. No need to devote extra pages to explain how to properly melt butter.

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Originally Posted by barneyboy
Jim G, sorry for straying off topic, sort of.

Just my opinion based on purchasing ten different HD service manuals for various models over the years.

The techs that wrote the service manuals never intended it to be a step by step manual for a novice mechanic/tech. Instead, it was written for a mechanic/tech that has previous experience. If every single procedure detail involved a detailed explanation/image, the manual would be twice as thick, and cost twice as much as as it now.

I would compare it to a cookbook. If the recipe calls for a 1/4 cup of melted butter, the writer assumes the cook is experienced in melting butter. No need to devote extra pages to explain how to properly melt butter.

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That's a fair comment. It does though mean that an owner who is nOT an experienced mechanic might be very limited in what he can do on these bikes.

Jim G
 
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