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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 05:49 PM
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I recently upgraded from N70.2 digital amp the the latest 200 w 4 channel amp. here is my problem sitting in driveway playing radio everything works fine crank up volume all the way no issues, now take the bike out for a drive and the system will cut out for a second intermittently when I increase the volume past 2-3 bars on the radio then the sound continues to play. sitting at a light not moving everything is OK start driving the problem returns. I have sent the radio back to Radio Sound twice, taken every solder less connector apart from the Hogtunes harness change them to solder and shrink wrap connections and the problem still exist. talk to Scott at Hog tunes today he suggest that direct connection of the ground at the battery could be causing a feedback and suggest i move it to the frame. has any one heard of that a direct connection to the power source should be the best.
 

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update last night i performs the suggested modifications from Hog Tunes by moving the ground from battery to frame, didn't work. I then created a custom ground harness that connected the AMP to Radio to frame in 3 places. Didn't work, I then built a custom slice connector that allowed me to connect my digital volt meter to monitor voltage coming in to amp while i was driving, it showed no fluctuation when the events happen. any ideas beside trashing the whole AMP setup. the only thing that fixes the problem is when i used the bypass circuit on the AMP, the or I remove the amp completely from the bike.
 

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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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update last night i performs the suggested modifications from Hog Tunes by moving the ground from battery to frame, didn't work. I then created a custom ground harness that connected the AMP to Radio to frame in 3 places. Didn't work, I then built a custom slice connector that allowed me to connect my digital volt meter to monitor voltage coming in to amp while i was driving, it showed no fluctuation when the events happen. any ideas beside trashing the whole AMP setup. the only thing that fixes the problem is when i used the bypass circuit on the AMP, the or I remove the amp completely from the bike.
Unfortunately trashing that whole amp system is the best solution. Sorry man I know that's NOT what you wanted to hear. But IMO you have put too much time and effort in that amp already.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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Hogtunes thinks it might be a voltage regulator what do you think
 
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 10:31 PM
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Hogtunes thinks it might be a voltage regulator what do you think
I don't think it's the voltage regulator. If you can crank up the volume in your drive way when the system is at it's lowest charging rate. Why would HOG tunes think it was the regulator? The voltage on the battery is higher when the bike is going down the road. Sitting still with the music playing it's usually about 12+ volts. Going down the road it jumps up to 13.5 -14. Makes no sense. I think it's the same old thing that eventually happens with all the OE radios. When the bike is moving and shaking like harleys do, The radio is cutting out intermittently with the movement of the bike due to the circuit board. You need a new radio.
 

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Old Apr 30, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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thought of that i have returned my radio twice now I am on the third one from Radio Sound, Also if I by pass the AMP problem goes away. Hog tunes is sending me a new amp to verify what I have always suspected is there is a loose something inside the AMP. The pisser is I drop the Batwing on my custom Pearl paint job which is now on its way back to Painter to fix.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2015 | 08:07 PM
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thought of that i have returned my radio twice now I am on the third one from Radio Sound, Also if I by pass the AMP problem goes away. Hog tunes is sending me a new amp to verify what I have always suspected is there is a loose something inside the AMP. The pisser is I drop the Batwing on my custom Pearl paint job which is now on its way back to Painter to fix.
Man just go aftermarkert and be done with it. Custom pearl paint and a hog tunes amp should not be in the same sentence. lol
 
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I want to bring this thread back to the forefront. Initially I bought the HogTunes 200w dual channel amp and set of speakers from them. Only had the amp and speakers hooked up for less than a month. The first amp blew something internally that the left speaker wouldn't play. It also must have blow something in the OEM H-D stereo as well because even upon disconnecting the amp and reconnecting all standard wiring, the left speaker could barely be heard. Color me pissed, right?

So, I invest in a brand new Kenwood deck and after communication with Hog Tunes, I send back the two channel amp and they upgraded me to the 200watt four channel amp. Got it hooked up last night. Easy plug and play. Felt relief. The amp was working! Not so fast. Took it out for a cruise and lo and behold, the same thing was happening to mine. It was cutting out on me as well! Parked, no problems. Once I start riding, it starts up again. So frustrating!!!

I'm wondering if it could be the new stereo and amp not working together or what? I'll be contacting Hog Tunes yet again. I'm almost done with them and ready to move on to a different brand amp.
 
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I want to bring this thread back to the forefront. Initially I bought the HogTunes 200w dual channel amp and set of speakers from them. Only had the amp and speakers hooked up for less than a month. The first amp blew something internally that the left speaker wouldn't play. It also must have blow something in the OEM H-D stereo as well because even upon disconnecting the amp and reconnecting all standard wiring, the left speaker could barely be heard. Color me pissed, right?

So, I invest in a brand new Kenwood deck and after communication with Hog Tunes, I send back the two channel amp and they upgraded me to the 200watt four channel amp. Got it hooked up last night. Easy plug and play. Felt relief. The amp was working! Not so fast. Took it out for a cruise and lo and behold, the same thing was happening to mine. It was cutting out on me as well! Parked, no problems. Once I start riding, it starts up again. So frustrating!!!

I'm wondering if it could be the new stereo and amp not working together or what? I'll be contacting Hog Tunes yet again. I'm almost done with them and ready to move on to a different brand amp.
Yeah . . I might not be the best advisor here. Totally not impressed with the Hog tune amps. Had one a few years ago and it blew a channel and I never looked at another Hog tunes amp. If I had known then what I know now I wouldn't have purchased the amp or the speakers in the first place. Hog Tunes are an upgrade from stock and you need the amp to call it an upgrade. It's a very good company with a great business model but their products are not on the same level as their service. At least that has been my experience.

I think you would be money ahead to sell or send the hog tunes amp back and go with another amp and speakers. Plenty of options out there that do not cost an arm and a leg. All the help you need is right here on the forum.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2015 | 11:32 AM
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I replace and cleaned everything but the Stator, ran a several test including connecting it to another bikes charging system, it is the amp. Many of my friends had a similar problem with other Amp manf's cutting out with aftermarket Head units, they change the Stator with one made by accell to clean it up problem. Harley is known for dirty charging system. What year is your bike? The last 450 amp hog tunes sent me did it any time the bike was running and the last one they sent me had a interference issue with faring. I would be very curious on what Scott tell you at Hog Tunes tech support. The issue seem to be the amp cuts out momentary due to high voltage, when the amp hit a bass point that requires more volts the harley system adjusts to the demand the regulator will allow the voltage increase to hit battery above 14.9 volts which is above the high limit circuit in amp,. this all happens in a micro second cause the amp to shut down. I haven figured out how the new stator clean up that yet but will test soon.
 

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