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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 01:17 PM
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First sorry OP for jacking your thread. Second, I had no idea what the numbers meant until now; thanx Gann, I go to school on the G.I. bill at age 57 because I like to learn. Watching this forum is like going to school. The main difference between the two is I spend a grip of cash on here.
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 08:42 AM
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gannicus
If he goes with the Arc 692's they match up perfectly with the 6.5 Moto's. 88 db for the 6.5's and 86 db for the Moto 692's. One thing everyone who purchases a set of arc's needs to know is that they are power hungry speakers and they need plenty power to get loud.

If you are looking for LOUD with less power you need a speaker around 92 to 96 db on up. Some guys are running speakers with 107 db these days. Those speakers don't need very much power to get really loud. On the other hand the higher the sensitivity the less BASS in your speakers. So it's a trade off. I run the Moto's because I like bass in my music.

That said. You can run a 100 watt amp and still be loud with the high sensitivity speakers. Going to at least need 150 watts with the any of the Moto speakers. The BT4180 works great with the Moto's!
I have one concern, a couple of folks here have installed the Moto 692's in the lids with the BT4180 and stock Rushmore HU and were not impressed with the bass coming from them.
You being the goto guy for the Moto's, would running the 602's and 692's in parallel help add more bass to the 692's?
Does the 4180 have enough power for the 692's?
Or are these two just not a good combination?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2016 | 11:57 PM
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I have one concern, a couple of folks here have installed the Moto 692's in the lids with the BT4180 and stock Rushmore HU and were not impressed with the bass coming from them.
You being the goto guy for the Moto's, would running the 602's and 692's in parallel help add more bass to the 692's?
Does the 4180 have enough power for the 692's?
Or are these two just not a good combination?
Just not a good combo with the 692's and the BT4180. I'm not exactly sure why that amp won't push the Moto's to their full potential. I have my thoughts on the subject but I have not had an opportunity to verify. With 692's you need a warm amp such as the SS TN4.900. I ran 4 692's and 2 sets of Moto 602's (8) speakers with the SS in parallel and the 692's were shaking the ground! I had re-enforce my saddlebag latches the bass was hitting so hard. So the bass is there but you need the right amp the pull it out!! Gains and tuning help Big time!!
 
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Originally Posted by Gannicus
Just not a good combo with the 692's and the BT4180. I'm not exactly sure why that amp won't push the Moto's to their full potential. I have my thoughts on the subject but I have not had an opportunity to verify. With 692's you need a warm amp such as the SS TN4.900. I ran 4 692's and 2 sets of Moto 602's (8) speakers with the SS in parallel and the 692's were shaking the ground! I had re-enforce my saddlebag latches the bass was hitting so hard. So the bass is there but you need the right amp the pull it out!! Gains and tuning help Big time!!
I just find it surprising because of how well the BT amp and the 602 combo work. My guess is there may be a filter in the BT amp trying to protect them and as a result reducing the bass. Not that this is a bad thing because I think it was Vision who cranked up the gains on the LL and ended up cooking one of the 692's. So as you said, just not a good combo.

I couldn't find many specs available on the 602 or 692 to compare.
 
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I believe The BT amps have a 45 khz filter built in. Thought I read that they built a few with 10 khz cut offs for some guys as a group purchase on a car audio forum that wanted to use them as sub amps with tight applications.
 
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