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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 12:24 PM
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Hey guys, need some advice. I'm a great wrench, but an idiot when it comes to audio.

2012 Limited, I don't need the loudest system on the block, just want a bit more.

Looking to replace Fairing speakers, and Tourpak speakers, and add an Amp.

I was thinking of going with Harley's setup 76000051 which includes 4 speakers and an amp, but after doing some reading, it appears lots of you think there is much better for the money.

I want as plug and play as possible, and I like the idea of Harley mounting the amp under the Tourpak to keep it out of the already crowded fairing.

What do you guys think of going with Harley's amp 76000068 and port kit 76000013, and then maybe going with speakers from Biketronics...it looks like their 7.1 are nice speakers.

And BTW, I can buy the Harley amp for about $200.00, so I'm not paying the full price of $409.00. The port kit is $89.95 but I could get it for 20% off.

So, depending on the speakers, I would have about $600.00 invested.

Sound reasonable?

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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 12:53 PM
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i don't think the HD amp is compatible with anything but HD speakers, I don't see anyone here ever recommending anything HD
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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[QUOTE=mikes300;18426959]i don't think the HD amp is compatible with anything but HD speakers,

This is correct. You are far better buying an aftermarket amp and speakers. What is your budget?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2019 | 02:00 PM
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This may help. It's a post I started a week ago.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/audio...-tour-pac.html
 
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One thing I failed to mention, I need to keep the stock Harley Radio so I can keep the CB/Intercom function.
 
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Originally Posted by mikes300
i don't think the HD amp is compatible with anything but HD speakers, I don't see anyone here ever recommending anything HD
Can you explain why that is? As long as the ohms matched, I thought any amp would work with any speakers as long as the amp didn't overpower the speakers?

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i don't think the HD amp is compatible with anything but HD speakers,

This is correct. You are far better buying an aftermarket amp and speakers. What is your budget?
Budget is probably around $600.00, I could go more if needed, but again, I don't need to wake up the neighborhood, just would like more power and better speakers.

I need to keep the CB Module. I know some of the amps say you can relocate the module under the radio, but it's already pretty crowded in there. Having said that, that is what I may end up doing.
 
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[QUOTE=Talldog;18427184]Can you explain why that is? As long as the ohms matched, I thought any amp would work with any speakers as long as the amp didn't overpower the speakers?

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Budget is probably around $600.00, I could go more if needed, but again, I don't need to wake up the neighborhood, just would like more power and better speakers.

I need to keep the CB Module. I know some of the amps say you can relocate the module under the radio, but it's already pretty crowded in there. Having said that, that is what I may end up doing.
the problem, is the HD amps amp 2 ohm, and no one really makes a good 2 ohm speaker that's a direct replacement for the HD speakers, so pretty much everyone just switches over to an amp and speakers that are 4 ohm, this opens up your options 10 fold, as far as retaining the stock head unit, that's not an issue, I think the majority do too.
 
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[QUOTE=mikes300;18429442]
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Can you explain why that is? As long as the ohms matched, I thought any amp would work with any speakers as long as the amp didn't overpower the speakers?


the problem, is the HD amps amp 2 ohm, and no one really makes a good 2 ohm speaker that's a direct replacement for the HD speakers, so pretty much everyone just switches over to an amp and speakers that are 4 ohm, this opens up your options 10 fold, as far as retaining the stock head unit, that's not an issue, I think the majority do too.

Explains a lot, Thank You!
 
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[QUOTE=Talldog;18431963]
Originally Posted by mikes300


Explains a lot, Thank You!
Your stock head unit can easily be used with an aftermarket amp and speakers. You won't have true plug and play, but the install is simple enough, if you are at all handy.

The Harley amps do not play well with most aftermarket speakers, and even if you do hook them to the proper ohm speaker, the volume and sound quality will still be limited. Even at the prices you can get it for, you are still better off spending a little more money to get something that would be a considerable improvement over the Harley amp. Most of us have easily found room to mount a suitable amp in the fairing. That's where the majority of us have mounted our amps. I have 2 amps in my fairing. A nice amp, a line level to RCA converter, a set of 6.5" speaker adapters, a bit of wire, and a nice set of speakers like the Mmats 601.cx would probably chew up most of your $600 budget, but would be leaps and bounds ahead of the Harley amp and 4 mediocre speakers. At that point you are only a set of rear speakers away from having a very nice sounding system with decent volume out on the highway. As soon as you have a few extra bucks, add in your back speakers. The guys can probably recommend a budget rear speaker that fits in the pod that would help keep your budget as close to your range as possible.
Myself I would recommend another set of Mmats 601.cx for your tour pac, but unfortunately they need an adapter to fit. The VTwin speaker adapter works the best and looks the nicest, but unfortunately it is a little pricey. That rear pod going that route would end up costing around $350, well worth it in my bucks since that's what I just installed in my bike on my last upgrade, and it works awesome, but totally understand when people go the route of a cheaper straight drop in speaker for the rear pod for around $100.
Hope that helps.
 
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[QUOTE=Bluesman280;18432154]
Originally Posted by Talldog

Your stock head unit can easily be used with an aftermarket amp and speakers. You won't have true plug and play, but the install is simple enough, if you are at all handy.

The Harley amps do not play well with most aftermarket speakers, and even if you do hook them to the proper ohm speaker, the volume and sound quality will still be limited. Even at the prices you can get it for, you are still better off spending a little more money to get something that would be a considerable improvement over the Harley amp. Most of us have easily found room to mount a suitable amp in the fairing. That's where the majority of us have mounted our amps. I have 2 amps in my fairing. A nice amp, a line level to RCA converter, a set of 6.5" speaker adapters, a bit of wire, and a nice set of speakers like the Mmats 601.cx would probably chew up most of your $600 budget, but would be leaps and bounds ahead of the Harley amp and 4 mediocre speakers. At that point you are only a set of rear speakers away from having a very nice sounding system with decent volume out on the highway. As soon as you have a few extra bucks, add in your back speakers. The guys can probably recommend a budget rear speaker that fits in the pod that would help keep your budget as close to your range as possible.
Myself I would recommend another set of Mmats 601.cx for your tour pac, but unfortunately they need an adapter to fit. The VTwin speaker adapter works the best and looks the nicest, but unfortunately it is a little pricey. That rear pod going that route would end up costing around $350, well worth it in my bucks since that's what I just installed in my bike on my last upgrade, and it works awesome, but totally understand when people go the route of a cheaper straight drop in speaker for the rear pod for around $100.
Hope that helps.
Thank you very much for the info!

I'll take a look at those speakers. Is there an Amp you would recommend?

Thanks again
 
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