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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoyt 1911A1
One thing to keep in mind is speakers in the lowers generally need more power (or at least the ability to fade/adjust the level) in order to be heard with the fairing speakers. If all four speakers are run off of the same amp channels (parallel) I wonder if the lowers would be heard much at all.

To try lowers on the cheap I wonder if he could bridge the current amp to feed just the fairing speakers and get another budget amp to drive the lowers.
Fwiw, I wired my 4 GZ's Fairing and Lowers bridged off of my SD1200.4 - 2 Ohm, and did some testing before hand. On my last set up, I had my Lowers on separate channels and did bump them a bit, so I too was concerned with my new setup that I would loose the lowers at even power. I ran one test with just the Fairings, then connected up the lowers and you could definitely hear the wider stage. Now, how that translates to real world with the wind and all is hard to tell, but I would suspect that like rears, the faster you go, the more they disappear. But stationary and to perhaps ~30mph, they are clearly noticeable. No doubt, if you have enough wattage, the hot ticket is to split them out and bump the lowers. If and when I upgrade to the 2400.4 - 4 Ohm, I will do just that, and move the 1200.4 to the rears. I'm not a parking lot jester, so I'm pretty happy where I am with just under 300w each crossed at 75hz. I don't have to run them past 1/2 most of the time, and even on the hwy, one notch past max. Plenty loud. With all of the SD bashing all of a sudden, it's hard not to just smile and shake my head.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 12:23 PM
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I would lean towards adding a second amp, and a better set of speakers to the lowers.
There are better speakers than the ones you have now, but if you are happy with them, leave them in the fairing off the current amp for now.
​​​You are going to want more volume out of your lowers so they can be balanced with the fairing speakerspeakers.You could upgrade your current amp, or just add second amp for the lowers.
I would probably a Sound Digital SD400.4 bridge it to the lowers.Maybe consider a set of Mmats coax, GZ Coax, or DB Moto G2'S for the lowers. Not everyone likes the G2's, but I like them out of the lowers. As for the GZ or Mmats coax, they would also be a great upgrade to the fairing if you decide to swap out your current fairing speakers down the road.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fireball Jack
I think the amp he has is rated @ 120w @ 2 ohms. You could try running them parallel and see how it sounds. You are definitely want to all 4 speakers through an amp.
its a Jensen XDA92RB, 600w peak, 80w RMS x 2ch @ 4ohm, 240w RMS x 1ch @ 4ohm bridged. Do I know what all means, no. But the speakers had a rating of 100w RMS, so it seemed like a good combo, especially for the cost. Reading this helps me understand why this amp will not power 4 speakers in the same class. I need a beefier amp and two more 6.5 speakers (i think)... thanks guys.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HamersGlide
its a Jensen XDA92RB, 600w peak, 80w RMS x 2ch @ 4ohm, 240w RMS x 1ch @ 4ohm bridged. Do I know what all means, no. But the speakers had a rating of 100w RMS, so it seemed like a good combo, especially for the cost. Reading this helps me understand why this amp will not power 4 speakers in the same class. I need a beefier amp and two more 6.5 speakers (i think)... thanks guys.
How do you know your amp won't power 4 speakers? Have you read the article I linked above? Currently, you are running 2 channels at 4 ohms at 80W RMS. But this amp will also put out 120W RMS for 2 channels at 2 ohms. If you drop another pair of 4-ohm speakers into the lowers and run them in parallel with the fairing speakers, you will be offering the amp a 2-ohm load for the 4 speakers on 2 channels and getting around 50% more power output. Are you happy with the SPL (volume) you currently get with the amp and 2 speakers? If so, or if you wouldn't mind a little more oomph, then why not just try dropping the 2nd set of 4-ohm speakers into the lowers? If it all works out, great. If not, then look to putting in a bigger amp.

I think it's probable that you will need a higher power amp but why spend more money than you need to until you have at least tried the lower-cost option?
 

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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 08:16 AM
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Man, that Jensen is an awfully big amp to have such a meager power output. I guess part of the selling point is bluetooth control, but unfortunately there really ain't much to control.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hamah
How do you know your amp won't power 4 speakers? Have you read the article I linked above? Currently, you are running 2 channels at 4 ohms at 80W RMS. But this amp will also put out 120W RMS for 2 channels at 2 ohms. If you drop another pair of 4-ohm speakers into the lowers and run them in parallel with the fairing speakers, you will be offering the amp a 2-ohm load for the 4 speakers on 2 channels and getting around 50% more power output. Are you happy with the SPL (volume) you currently get with the amp and 2 speakers? If so, or if you wouldn't mind a little more oomph, then why not just try dropping the 2nd set of 4-ohm speakers into the lowers? If it all works out, great. If not, then look to putting in a bigger amp.

I think it's probable that you will need a higher power amp but why spend more money than you need to until you have at least tried the lower-cost option?
I prolly wrote that before looking at the article. I did try and read thru it but I might need to read a few more times. I think it makes sense, but Im not an electrician or anything. Series vs Parallel and all that... Ill get a spool of wire and try it. Thanks.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoyt 1911A1
Man, that Jensen is an awfully big amp to have such a meager power output. I guess part of the selling point is bluetooth control, but unfortunately there really ain't much to control.
Big as in size? Its actually pretty small. It was $60 at Walmart. I didnt plan on an augmdio upgrade. So it was all quick buys. I had a speaker crap out. Replaced with 5.25s 2ohms. Then 2 weeks later the HU started actin up. The Aquatic HU didnt seem loud enough or something, so I was like funk it, I need an Amp and 6.5 speakers. Sounds good... so far
 
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Originally Posted by hamah
Currently, you are running 2 channels at 4 ohms at 80W RMS. But this amp will also put out 120W RMS for 2 channels at 2 ohms. If you drop another pair of 4-ohm speakers into the lowers and run them in parallel with the fairing speakers, you will be offering the amp a 2-ohm load for the 4 speakers on 2 channels and getting around 50% more power output. Are you happy with the SPL (volume) you currently get with the amp and 2 speakers? If so, or if you wouldn't mind a little more oomph, then why not just try dropping the 2nd set of 4-ohm speakers into the lowers? If it all works out, great. If not, then look to putting in a bigger amp.
He is currently giving his speakers 80 watts each. If he adds the lowers and runs two speakers in parallel, the speakers will share 120 watts. As in they will only be getting 60 watts each. I would take an educated guess, and say it won't be loud enough.
My personal experience says 125-150 watts per channel is the minimum a guy needs to truly enjoy tunes at 75-80 mph.
 
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Originally Posted by HamersGlide
Big as in size? Its actually pretty small. It was $60 at Walmart. I didnt plan on an augmdio upgrade. So it was all quick buys. I had a speaker crap out. Replaced with 5.25s 2ohms. Then 2 weeks later the HU started actin up. The Aquatic HU didnt seem loud enough or something, so I was like funk it, I need an Amp and 6.5 speakers. Sounds good... so far
Dang, if it was that cheap do you think you could fit another one in there for the lowers? Might be a cheap experiment that would give you 80 watts for each speaker. That's not enough for GOOD sound, but it would certainly give you better sound.

The reason I said it is big for its power output is because an SD 800.4 that puts out 4 x 147 watts is a tad smaller:
800.4 EVOX

In looking at the specs Jensen claims that little stinker does 240 watts x 1 bridged. I really doubt it would do that, but let's say it would do 200. Anyone game for buying two of these for $120 total and seeing what they could do with them
 
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Originally Posted by Hoyt 1911A1
Dang, if it was that cheap do you think you could fit another one in there for the lowers? Might be a cheap experiment that would give you 80 watts for each speaker. That's not enough for GOOD sound, but it would certainly give you better sound.

The reason I said it is big for its power output is because an SD 800.4 that puts out 4 x 147 watts is a tad smaller:
800.4 EVOX

In looking at the specs Jensen claims that little stinker does 240 watts x 1 bridged. I really doubt it would do that, but let's say it would do 200. Anyone game for buying two of these for $120 total and seeing what they could do with them
this youtube vid sold it for me

 
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