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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 07:00 PM
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Long story short my wife doesn’t enjoy the back of the bike, 2020 ultra Ltd, I can’t find a new CVO to replace it so thinking I’ll build this bike the way I want it. Just did tour pack delete and looking at audio now to improve it, Then motor work. I was at the bike show earlier in the year so please don’t bash the pricing all I’m wondering if it will sound good at reasonable levels when riding not looking for a parking lot system , tour pack will remain off 90% of the time. Thought are appreciated. Will use Sirius or stream music from phone, little radio use.
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Old Jul 18, 2022 | 09:22 PM
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Sorry, not trying to bash the price but WOW!

Are you installing yourself or having someone else do it? I'd shop around. The RF lid kit isn't bad, but the speakers aren't the best. I put a kit in my last bike and the speakers couldn't be heard at all and couldn't even keep up with my front speakers (mmats 601cx) sitting still. Replaced them with mmats 690cx.

I'd shop around for a better deal honestly. And better speakers. That SD amp is a good amp.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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. I was at the bike show earlier in the year so please don’t bash the pricing all I’m wondering if it will sound good at reasonable levels when riding not looking for a parking lot system , tour pack will remain off 90% of the time. Thought are appreciated. Will use Sirius or stream music from phone, little radio use.
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It's not a bad system. Those Focals are some good speakers. I know a few guys that run them and love them. And they take a beating. You will definitely be able to hear those front speakers going down the road. The lid speakers aren't the greatest, but not the best. Amp is a little light on power.

Basically you have about $2300-ish is parts and they want $1500 for labor. A little on high side for labor. But if it's coming from reputable shop and they specialize in bike audio and offer warranty, $1500 is not out of line for a shop for a 4 speaker with lid cut in. If I was doing it out of my garage, I'd probably charge about $800 for labor. BUT, I"m not a shop. I don't have to pay for rent and electricity and all the other things it costs to run a business. Some people on here bitch and complain about labor prices shops charges. Those who don't do installs, have no clue what costs go into having all the tools and time for doing quality installs.

If you are looking for a good shop to so a 4 speaker install with lid cut in, I would plan on about $3500. BUT I would go with a different setup than what you have listed. I'm not sure what else they offer or what other quality shops are around.
But if you were to spend the $3900 on it, I don't think you would be super happy going down the highway for that price.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 10:59 AM
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recently i had a shop do some work

I was looking at doing the following

I wanted to replace my AD 4000's with the new 5000s in the fairing
nix the Arc 600.4 and replace with two 720s
add a dsp

for me to buy the stuff

AD5000's - $800
two 720s - $1500
DSR1 - $350
Total - $2650, just in parts for me

the guy that did the install did it for $2900ish...$2600 when we settled up because he offered me $300 for my used 600.4

where I feel he makes money, and rightly so, God Bless America, is in margins left in selling the equipment as well....there's no way this guy paid 2650 for the parts
 
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Old Jul 19, 2022 | 06:21 PM
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It's not a bad system. Those Focals are some good speakers. I know a few guys that run them and love them. And they take a beating. You will definitely be able to hear those front speakers going down the road. The lid speakers aren't the greatest, but not the best. Amp is a little light on power.

Basically you have about $2300-ish is parts and they want $1500 for labor. A little on high side for labor. But if it's coming from reputable shop and they specialize in bike audio and offer warranty, $1500 is not out of line for a shop for a 4 speaker with lid cut in. If I was doing it out of my garage, I'd probably charge about $800 for labor. BUT, I"m not a shop. I don't have to pay for rent and electricity and all the other things it costs to run a business. Some people on here bitch and complain about labor prices shops charges. Those who don't do installs, have no clue what costs go into having all the tools and time for doing quality installs.

If you are looking for a good shop to so a 4 speaker install with lid cut in, I would plan on about $3500. BUT I would go with a different setup than what you have listed. I'm not sure what else they offer or what other quality shops are around.
But if you were to spend the $3900 on it, I don't think you would be super happy going down the highway for that price.
Thanks for the information. please remember I’m in Canada and our money is worth less So it converts to $2960 little less than 1k for labour so not totally crazy for a professional shop to pay there bills. I’ll do some more searches in this forum and learn some more.
 
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Originally Posted by kevin Z06
Thanks for the information. please remember I’m in Canada and our money is worth less So it converts to $2960 little less than 1k for labour so not totally crazy for a professional shop to pay there bills. I’ll do some more searches in this forum and learn some more.
Ahhh, yeah that makes sense. Then yeah, it's not horrible. If you did go with it, I would ask them to upgrade the 800.4 to a 1200.4, for same price! You could always upgrade the 6x9 speakers later down the road if you weren't happy with the RF
 
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I would shop, shop and shop around. Really do your due diligence as to the installation quality of the audio shop. There are a lot of nightmare stories on YouTube where customers are paying twice for another shop to clean up wiring mess.

Have you considered doing your own installation? For me it allowed me to get the equipment I wanted within my budget, and also gave me a great understanding of the system. I could not have done it without suggestions and reading threads here on HDF as well as the excellent data online with American Hard Bag and their phone support. It’s a lot, but I am proof it can be done by a beginner with good results.

Good luck with your selection. It is worth it!
 

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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cshocker
Ahhh, yeah that makes sense. Then yeah, it's not horrible. If you did go with it, I would ask them to upgrade the 800.4 to a 1200.4, for same price! You could always upgrade the 6x9 speakers later down the road if you weren't happy with the RF
Thanks appreciate the input, I’m truly not a Harley guy trying to learn from decades of sport bikes. Trying to Slow down enjoy the ride And scenery more, spend time with friends enjoying lunches and rides. Stereos are like the cam choice discussions.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Razorback
I would shop, shop and shop. Really do your due diligence as to the installation quality of the shop. There are a lot of nightmare stories on YouTube where customers are paying twice for another shop to clean up wiring mess.

Have you considered doing your own installation? For me it allowed me to get the equipment I wanted within my budget, and also gave me a great understanding of the system. I could not have done it without suggestions and reading threads here on HDF as well as the excellent data online with American Hard Bag and their phone support. It’s a lot, but I am proof it can be done by a beginner with good results.

Good luck with your selection. It is worth it!
Great feedback
i am considering the install and have a buddy that’s a stereo guy multiple complicated car installs no bike experience but same basic skill sets, THis seems doable and read your thread last night, there is lots of access once the batwing is removed, I was surprised when I did the Sirius install.
I also understand sometimes it’s easier to make more money than time. My only hesitation is cutting the lids, 8 to 14 weeks for Painted speaker lids from HD if I order Speaker lids and keep original intact.
I may try the install and only do fronts waiting on the lids, Razor is the quality of aftermarket what you expected,
my project is a would like not a must have.
 
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Not sure what color your bike it, but AdvanBlack probably has the lids in stock. I am very pleased with the quality, paint, fit and finish overall.
 
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