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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 07:27 PM
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I have a 2013 Wideglide and purchased the 6 spoke split wheels.I had the
dealer install the bearings.Went to install front wheel and it is a 1/4'' to
far to the right side of bike.I swapped the wheel spacers around and that
put the rotor to far to the left.

Any ideas what is going on with this?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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I wondered when I would be exposed to these somewhat "odd ball" instructions...looks like this it

See the following instructions for your wheel's bearing installation. They could have made a multitude of mistakes on the installation because your particular install is not the norm.

OR they could have done everything right. It does say your wheel will be .080-.200" off center.
Is your rotor to caliper alignment off? If so, then it would appear that the bearings are installed wrong.

Take some pics if you can.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/app-c...ts/-J04051.PDF


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Yep rotor alignment is off.Wheel is about 10mm off center instead of 5mm the
instructions suggest.I figure the dealer put bearing spacer under wrong bearing
so this afternoon I will try flipping the wheel and see what that looks like.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 06:56 AM
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Does your 2013 have ABS, on a 2013 Wide Glide without ABS both axle spacers should be the same size (PN-11804). On an ABS bike the spacers should be different sizes (which it sounds like your spacers are), the right space PN-11804 and the left should be 40927-08. Sounds like the dealer might have set it up for a non ABS bearing install when you needed an ABS bearing install which would compensate for the offset you are getting.


http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....=30&c=0&d=2013 FXDWG DYNAŽ 103 WIDE GLIDE (GPM) WHEEL - FRONT (LACED)
 
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This is where there might be a problem. Your wheel deviates from the norm by putting the machined groove on the RIGHT while still maintaining the LEFT as the "Primary" side. Then possibly errors were compounded based on that original mistake. Such as the bearing shim placement. May be hard to fully diagnose without removing bearings

 
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Originally Posted by blueangel73
Does your 2013 have ABS, on a 2013 Wide Glide without ABS both axle spacers should be the same size (PN-11804). On an ABS bike the spacers should be different sizes (which it sounds like your spacers are), the right space PN-11804 and the left should be 40927-08. Sounds like the dealer might have set it up for a non ABS bearing install when you needed an ABS bearing install which would compensate for the offset you are getting.


http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche....=30&c=0&d=2013 FXDWG DYNAŽ 103 WIDE GLIDE (GPM) WHEEL - FRONT (LACED)
Bike is non abs and the spacers are different sizes.Left side spacer is longer
than the right side.Dealer did not touch the bike
and the spacers are what it came with from the factory.So I possibly have
a factory mistake on the spacers?
 
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Originally Posted by multihdrdr
This is where there might be a problem. Your wheel deviates from the norm by putting the machined groove on the RIGHT while still maintaining the LEFT as the "Primary" side. Then possibly errors were compounded based on that original mistake. Such as the bearing shim placement. May be hard to fully diagnose without removing bearings

Yeah I should have just bought the bearing tool and did the job myself but the
dealer installed the bearings for $60 and I figured I would really have no use for
the tool again.Boy I was wrong now I can buy the tool and $40 more worth of bearings.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DeaD SpacE
Bike is non abs and the spacers are different sizes.Left side spacer is longer
than the right side.Dealer did not touch the bike
and the spacers are what it came with from the factory.So I possibly have
a factory mistake on the spacers?
I can not 100% tell where the mistake is, I am basing my information on what the parts manual is saying the bike comes with. Maybe you could go down to the dealer and see if that have the spacers on hand and measure them. Maybe they can clearify why item #7 in the pic has four possible configurations.


I do know that when I went from a Mid-Glide to a Wide Glide on my Bob, I wuses a Wide Glide hub and used the stock (PN-11804) spacers from the Bob with out any issues, they are the same width.


I don't remember if you mentioned or not, but have you attempted to switch sides with the spacers on the axle? If the spacer width difference of your two spacers the same as the offset your getting, would have the offset put you where you need to be. If one spacer is 5mm wider then the other, would narrowing the wider by 2.5mm and having the smaller 2.5mm wider solve the problem (both spacers the same width)?


 
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Old Jun 3, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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He's using the OE spacers...different lengths


St Charles also includes model designators (although it looks like they forgot to remove the GP4/GPM (FXDWG 96 & 103) from the "all other" listings)






Confirmed by Colony's listing...





And also cvaria's 2013 FXDWG front spacer photo




Do those spacers look familiar
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What are "decorative grooves"? I am using the 11804 with my Fat Bob trees, Street Bob legs and a Wide Glide hub, which according to 2514-5 isn't possible <-just and example.


According to Ronnies, the 40926-08 and 40927-08 are correct in 2008, but the info on the Wide Glides spacers changed 2010 when they only have 11804 listed for it, 2011 they went back to the -08 version, 2012 has both versions and then in 2013 they have all kinds of combos as you can see in the pic I posted earlier.


I am not questioning your knowledge Multi, just trying to help figure this out.
 
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