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Old Apr 19, 2017 | 01:03 PM
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My top end is apart right now, and while the heads and barrels are being rehabbed, I'm planning on upgrading the cam chest. I've coordinated with my builder (Andy Simon) to choose hardware, and have decided on the S&S cam plate/oil pump and fresh 585s to replace the Andrews TW60s that have been in my motor since '03 (I don't believe that the cam plate/tensioners have ever been changed).

Here's my question: Andy said I probably don't need the Easy Start version of the 585, since I'm running manual compression relief valves. But someone else in his shop swears by them, and recommends the Easy Starts even with the compression reliefs...

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Edit: I should have stated originally... Static compression will be around 10.5:1.
 

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Old Apr 19, 2017 | 01:54 PM
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In my opinion if you have manual compression releases you do not need the easy start cams.
And yes the easy start cams work great if you do not have any other form of compression release.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2017 | 02:08 PM
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I've got manual compression releases that I've been running for a few years, and I'm now in the process of installing a set of 585 EZ start cams. MCRs are kind of a pain in the ***, in my opinion. I'll probably remove the MCRs and find a plug that fits the threads.

I don't think I'd go through the trouble of switching cams just for the EZ start feature, but if you're changing cams anyways, might as well.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2017 | 02:19 PM
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I'm going ez start just because. I'm not going for super-compression or super hp but, i'm replacing that cams anyway... can't hurt.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2017 | 02:21 PM
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I'm running EZ starts and electric compression releases. Works great. My battery is 4 years old and still going strong.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2017 | 02:33 PM
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I've always had the release valves, so I'm very used to using them... But as I understand it, there really is no downside to running both, so I guess I'll go that route...

It is kind of fun that my bike looks like a process to start to onlookers... I have a nine-step routine:

1. Petcock on
2. Ignition on
3. Kill switch on
4. Enrichener pulled (unless hot)
5. Rear release valve opened
6. Front release valve opened
7. Clutch lever pulled (just in case)
8. One full throttle twist (unless warm)
9. Starter

"Atomic batteries on... Turbines to speed..."
 

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What, no manual ignition retard or kicker? Lazy kids these days...
 
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Old Apr 19, 2017 | 04:28 PM
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the not so old s&s guy mentioned that care needed to be taken when using adjustable rods with the easy starts.. to avoid the rods resting in the easy start holes on the base circle. here at ~7m45s

 
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Originally Posted by cvaria
the not so old s&s guy mentioned that care needed to be taken when using adjustable rods with the easy starts.. to avoid the rods resting in the easy start holes on the base circle. here at ~7m30s

https://youtu.be/8jqJck0vQRw?t=7m35s
Ahhh... Thanks for pointing that out. I do run adjustable pushrods. I suppose I should also ask S&S directly for input...
 
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Originally Posted by cggorman
What, no manual ignition retard or kicker? Lazy kids these days...
My ex-wife's Enfield has both of those things...
 
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