Low Rider S flash update - Long...
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Joined: Mar 2017
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From: South Florida
The FP3 is a solid tuner, it just works. Updating with FP3 is as simple as it gets. The repeated suggestion that one must contact Vance and Hines before any update or "things won't end well" is baffling. 
I updated my FP3 and re-flashed with 621 MAP with absolutely no issue. Shadow runs great. Simply deleted the previous map that used 617 did the auto-tune thing and am happy as a lark.
just my experience.... Wag-On
I updated my FP3 and re-flashed with 621 MAP with absolutely no issue. Shadow runs great. Simply deleted the previous map that used 617 did the auto-tune thing and am happy as a lark.
just my experience.... Wag-On
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Joined: May 2017
Posts: 68
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From: USA
My experience was this: I had the 617 flash, and tuned using the FP3, all was good. I did the update on the FP3 and noticed it included the 621, so I thought great, I'll reflash. I did, and it was still on 617. I went to hd to get my 5k service and returned the bike to stock, had them flash up to 621. Still good at this point. Then, I hooked up the FP3 and tried to flash...bike won't start. I call V&H and they tell me I must have HD reflash the bike to 621, then hook up the FP3 and they walked me thru steps to upload my stock hd 621 calibration to their servers, the V&H tech then sent me an updated file. I loaded the updated file and now am on 621. I'm sure I did something wrong, but that's why I was warning people not to flash with the FP3 on 621 without speaking with V&H.
Most importantly though - there was no problems after flashing over stock HD 621 like described above and didn't have to contact anyone for special procedure. Though I suspect the issue is that the FP3 is somehow still looking for ECU version 617 and goes into spasm mode with it finds version 621 instead. Seems the PV does not do that.
Wag-on....
Stage III
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 3
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From: Brownsville tx
fp3 help
Vance and Hines seem to have this sorted.
Had my bike serviced and remapped as per Harley requirements by the dealer.
I was unable to remap my bike afterwards using the FP3 as it threw up about 20 fault codes and wouldn't start at all.
Spoke to Vance and Hines and followed the instructions with a new map set through. Now all working and starting great.
Had to delete all my previous maps but FP3 all ready to go again now.
Had my bike serviced and remapped as per Harley requirements by the dealer.
I was unable to remap my bike afterwards using the FP3 as it threw up about 20 fault codes and wouldn't start at all.
Spoke to Vance and Hines and followed the instructions with a new map set through. Now all working and starting great.
Had to delete all my previous maps but FP3 all ready to go again now.
3 month later installed short shots and try to install new map
bike wont start need help call Vance Hines or take to dealer thanks
Cruiser
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 120
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From: London
Contact Vance and Hines and explain everything they will take you through the process of getting it sorted in no time.
Don’t think a dealer will be able to help you unless you remove the FP3 and take the bike to them.
No point in that though, when V&H will do the job.
Don’t think a dealer will be able to help you unless you remove the FP3 and take the bike to them.
No point in that though, when V&H will do the job.
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From: Toledo ohio
I have a 14 RK which I am going to install a Stage4. Along with the SE cnc heads, 10.5 pistons, 259E pro cams, it came with a 58 mm throttle body and intake, comp releases, and high flow injectors. I currently run a thundermax with my stage 1, but this kit came with the 32109-08C SEPST. The throttle body that came with is for 07 earlier with cables, mine of course is TBW. So, I was thinking of using my stock 50 mm intake and TB and put in the high flow injectors. I have a V&H Power Duals with Jackpot 4" slash ups.
Question 1 is will the 50 mm int/tb work with the stage 4 ?
Question 2 should I stay with tmax or used the supplied SEPST?
Question 3 should I really swap the early TB to a later 58 mm to work with this entire setup?
Question 1 is will the 50 mm int/tb work with the stage 4 ?
Question 2 should I stay with tmax or used the supplied SEPST?
Question 3 should I really swap the early TB to a later 58 mm to work with this entire setup?
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From: SWFL
I have a 14 RK which I am going to install a Stage4. Along with the SE cnc heads, 10.5 pistons, 259E pro cams, it came with a 58 mm throttle body and intake, comp releases, and high flow injectors. I currently run a thundermax with my stage 1, but this kit came with the 32109-08C SEPST. The throttle body that came with is for 07 earlier with cables, mine of course is TBW. So, I was thinking of using my stock 50 mm intake and TB and put in the high flow injectors. I have a V&H Power Duals with Jackpot 4" slash ups.
Question 1 is will the 50 mm int/tb work with the stage 4 ?
Question 2 should I stay with tmax or used the supplied SEPST?
Question 3 should I really swap the early TB to a later 58 mm to work with this entire setup?
Question 1 is will the 50 mm int/tb work with the stage 4 ?
Question 2 should I stay with tmax or used the supplied SEPST?
Question 3 should I really swap the early TB to a later 58 mm to work with this entire setup?
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Joined: Jun 2014
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From: Batcave
Resurrecting this thread from the dead after just seeing this
I have a 2017 LRS that had the 117ci screamin eagle kit installed when new. It has the orange se race tuner and has the 117ci calibration loaded. Bikes runs flawlessly but has a paused start thats not as strong as it should be. Clearly the ACRs are not activated which the 621 tune calibration addressed.
Im in Australia and will contact my local dealer next week but Im not sure theyll know much about this or help.
So my questions are:
1) Can I simply adjust some tune settings with my race tuner to replicate what the 621 tune changed? And if so, what changes?
2) If my dealer does help, theres a good chance they will give me the 621 tune for 110ci which isnt useful for my 117ci engine. Did they release a 621 tune for the 117ci kit (that isnt detuned for epa)?
Thanks
I have a 2017 LRS that had the 117ci screamin eagle kit installed when new. It has the orange se race tuner and has the 117ci calibration loaded. Bikes runs flawlessly but has a paused start thats not as strong as it should be. Clearly the ACRs are not activated which the 621 tune calibration addressed.
Im in Australia and will contact my local dealer next week but Im not sure theyll know much about this or help.
So my questions are:
1) Can I simply adjust some tune settings with my race tuner to replicate what the 621 tune changed? And if so, what changes?
2) If my dealer does help, theres a good chance they will give me the 621 tune for 110ci which isnt useful for my 117ci engine. Did they release a 621 tune for the 117ci kit (that isnt detuned for epa)?
Thanks
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