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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 11:58 AM
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I would recommend to install higher quality pads and flush and bleed them. No way I am stopping my Road King with only the rear brake. My old sportster will slow down with the rear only and feels stronger as it’s a lot lighter. I only buy bikes with ABS now.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MathFXDL
I am obviously using the front brakes the problem is that all my braking power is comming from the front.

If I use only the rear the bike doesn't stop wich is not the case with non ABS bikes.
Most of your braking power should come from the front, so I don't see the problem. If you use only the front or the back you are not braking correctly, both should be used together with the front taking most of the braking force. The problem is not with your bike but your riding technique. Watch some instructional videos and even better, take a rider's safety course if they have such a thing near you.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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A good riding course is the best investment any rider should do. The gift that keeps on giving.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by MathFXDL
I rode an XR1200 before I got this dyna and I could really lock the rear and stop the bike without depending intirely on my front brakes.
If you you believe that you are getting maximum braking performance (minimal stopping distance) while braking with the front and dragging the back; you are mistaken.
You should keep the ABS because it defiantly improves braking performance for people with poor technique (as you indicate that you use).

There are those that argue that they can stop, using proper technique, faster than ABS. I would argue that, if the ABS ever engages, you have already blown it and the ABS will only improve your stopping performance; i.e., the best braking/riding technique (on streets or highways) precludes engaging ABS. That said: ABS has saved my bacon when a deer jumped out in front of me. Those split hooved daemons of death come out of no-where and jump right into your path. If you have never seen it, you don't understand how fast it happens. Their instinct is to run straight at a predictor to get behind it (causing the predator to stop and turn while the deer escapes at full speed). This instinctive (or God given) defensive behavior fails miserably with motor vehicles.

 
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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 01:03 PM
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I think the ABS is working properly. I agree with the others.I think the OP needs training with braking. No one, especially someone confident with their abilities wants to be told they are doing something wrong. Don't be defensive. Please take our advice and work on braking with both brakes. The harder you brake the more braking power power the front has. The weight shifts to the front as you brake. On a sport bike I used to have I could skid long distances with the rear locked up. During those times it seemed like the rear had almost no braking power. On a bike with ABS you can slam on the rear brake and seem to keep going and going and going as the ABS pulsates the brakes. At those times it seems like the ABS brakes have almost no braking power.

The fact that the ABS is kicking in tells us there is nothing wrong with the brakes.

For the riders that really think they can brake faster without ABS I'd like to see them in a controlled test environment to verify braking distances.


Originally Posted by hairymoth
There are those that argue that they can stop, using proper technique, faster than ABS. I would argue that, if the ABS ever engages, you have already blown it and the ABS will only improve your stopping performance; i.e., the best braking/riding technique (on streets or highways) precludes engaging ABS.
Well said. ABS is a major improvement to almost all riders.
 

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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 01:29 PM
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It's possible his ABS is not working properly. I once had a 1995 Corvette with ABS and the breaks were terrible. Took it to the shop more than once, only to be told they could find nothing wrong with the breaks. I knew they weren't right. I sold the car because of the brakes. Perhaps this is why the previous owner sold the bike with only 5000 miles on it.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 04:47 PM
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So much ABS lovers here, never mind the ABS then, maybe its just the weight diference with my previous bike, but how can I get better stopping power on the rear ?

I'm almost going for an aftermarket caliper.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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I ride a fxdb 2015 single disc. I also race sport bikes. Although the brakes arent great, they do the job and I've never needed to think about upgrading them. Partly cause these things handle like boats no matter what you do to them, so I'm rarely ripping down a straight and need to thump the brakes before a curve.

I think you need to rethink your braking strategy before upgrading anything. It sounds you rely too heavily on the rear brake. As many have stated, most of the stopping power is coming from the front. It sounds like your primary method for braking is using a rear. That's so @ss backwards sorry to say. Get some lessons.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango Dave
Very few can stop a cycle better than ABS. ABS can react in milliseconds.
abs saved my *** once it was a quick panic stop a car on a side street decided last second to merge onto the opposite side of the Main Street., if I didn’t have it my rear would have locked up and lord knows what. This question is stupid lol the point is to not lock up your brakes at that point the brakes aren’t doing there job and you’ve lost some if not most control of your rear end.

take some classes you sound like you need em
 
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Old Dec 25, 2018 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MathFXDL
So much ABS lovers here, never mind the ABS then, maybe its just the weight diference with my previous bike, but how can I get better stopping power on the rear ?

I'm almost going for an aftermarket caliper.
better pads rotor and caliper. Also the stock rear master sucks but I’ve yet to find a replacement
 
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