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Old May 17, 2020 | 01:05 PM
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I know this type of problem has been posted before, but just seeing if there's any new ideas out there. Since I've had my FLD, which has been 8 years, I'm on my 4th battery. They barely last 2 years and I do know I don't ride nearly as much as I should, but a battery should last longer than 2 years. When I'm not riding, a battery tender is connected, and I'm not running any other accessories, no alarm, no abs etc. When I do go away for a few days on the bike, and putting it on a charge overnight doesn't happen when parked at a motel, it barely starts the next day. I carry a power pack just in case I have to jump it.

So, I've been told that I probably have a parasitic drain going on somewhere. And that is coming from the techs I know over at the dealer. Does that sound about right for what's going on with it? I've a got a buddy who does electrical, and I've asked him to diagnose it. Now all batteries have come from the dealer too, not sure if that's the problem right there!

I'm tired of replacing batteries....I need to find the source of the problem. Stay tuned.
A few questions:
Did you test charging system with a cheap or even sometimes free(harbor freight) digital meter after when changing any of those batteries?
What exact battery tender are you using?
You state "When I do go away for a few days on the bike, and putting it on a charge overnight doesn't happen when parked at a motel, it barely starts the next day."...did you check charging system at that time?
When you change battery..does someone charge battery and then load test battery?
Do you know how to check for a parasitic drain? Do you know what numbers mean?
 
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Old May 17, 2020 | 01:07 PM
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Old May 17, 2020 | 01:08 PM
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Charging system test

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Old May 17, 2020 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by John CC
[T]he world is full of batteries that die after 2 years on a tender.
Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
Ok, educate us, how many batteries die after 2 years on a tender vs how many die after 2 years not on a tender.
Maybe it would have made more sense if I said "the forums are filled with reports of batteries that die after 2 years on a tender."
 
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Old May 17, 2020 | 09:23 PM
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I keep all three of my bikes on tenders when not riding them and I've been using battery maintainers for at least the past 12 years. On average I get 5 to 6 years of life out of a motorcycle battery. I've added three more tenders over the past few years so I have a total of six thats always in use. The later ones were for my wifes Vespa, the electric start emergency generator, and one for the riding mower. Without a doubt, they simply work and extend the life of batteries.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 02:50 AM
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Just make sure you dont let that HD battery go near dead. Once it dies once or goes too low its never the same. The quality of the HD batteries are very poor compared to my other sportbikes.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 08:03 AM
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I have tested previous batteries, with a cheap multimeter before starting and then under load. I've seen the readings be around 14.1 then drop once started up. Tbh, I haven't tested this battery, but I'm headed to my buddy's garage today and he is the king of electrical, so he is going to check it all out. The battery tender I'm using is the Tecmate Optimate 7.
And when I was away, I did not bring the multimeter with, so no I didn't measure voltage etc.
I do work at an HD dealer and ride to work for spring and summer. The techs have heard my bike starting up at the end of the work day and it does sound like the battery is going to die. They know my bike and they believe there is a parasitic drain going on. At this point, I'm going to let my buddy have a look since electrical is his specialty and has the experience with HD and my bike too.
I will see what that shows today....
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 08:10 AM
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zebraranger,
Long before I rode HD, I rode a Honda Shadow. That bike didn't have alarms or any accessories and during the winter, the battery was on a Battery Tender Plus, in my dining room. During riding season, I never had it on the charge, and it started up beautifully every time. And that battery lasted over 5 years.
Since owning HD for the last 12 years, the lowrider had the battery replaced once, but the parts tech told me that all HD's need to be put on the charge every night. I found that weird, but I've been doing that. I didn't do any traveling on my LR, so daily riding was fine. The FLD has been this way since I got it.
 
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Old May 19, 2020 | 08:24 AM
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So, my buddy tested my battery and charging system for a couple of hours yesterday. Battery was in good shape, voltage measured with no load and then with load. All good and then he did the regulator etc and checked all connectors. All connectors were clean, but he still went over them, and did a clean of all connectors, checked the ground connection (which did need a tighten up), so that also got cleaned (he uses a spray that cleans connections) . So, his assessment is there is no parasitic drain going on and the issue I've had with it when it has sat at work for 8 hours, and then having a hard time starting at the end of the day, has to do with compression. So, his recommendation is, if that happens again, and it sounds like its not going to start, turn the bike off, wait a minute or 2, and start it again. That should cause compression to release and should start no problem. So I will do that....apparently this has been a problem with the 103's.
He said to put it on the charge still when not riding, so I will do that too.
Thanks for everyone's input....
 

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just one other idea, if voltage is ok under load, it is possible that your starter is failing.
 
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