Are there any actual HD techs here?
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Are there any actual HD techs here?
I have a question I can't seem to figure out myself.
Rather than explain my scenario and make it confusing, I will ask this.
If someone were to break off one of their front bullet signal housings from say a Dyna, ( or style that signal housings are on the bars) how would the dealer go about replacing them? I have a hard time believing that the entire switch housing, wire harnesses, and signal housings are all one piece, but that is really how it looks to me.
So you mean to tell me in order to replace a front signal, you need to order the handlebar switch control assembly, rewire handlebars, and buy the bullet housings and internals?
That's very odd to me but it's all one piece?
Rather than explain my scenario and make it confusing, I will ask this.
If someone were to break off one of their front bullet signal housings from say a Dyna, ( or style that signal housings are on the bars) how would the dealer go about replacing them? I have a hard time believing that the entire switch housing, wire harnesses, and signal housings are all one piece, but that is really how it looks to me.
So you mean to tell me in order to replace a front signal, you need to order the handlebar switch control assembly, rewire handlebars, and buy the bullet housings and internals?
That's very odd to me but it's all one piece?
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From: Honah Lee
Questions like yours would be easier with a signature on your bike, year, model and all the letters.
Look here and see what you can buy and determined how far and what exactly is broken.
https://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche...avidsonmc/945#
Look here and see what you can buy and determined how far and what exactly is broken.
https://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche...avidsonmc/945#
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Questions like yours would be easier with a signature on your bike, year, model and all the letters.
Look here and see what you can buy and determined how far and what exactly is broken.
https://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche...avidsonmc/945#
Look here and see what you can buy and determined how far and what exactly is broken.
https://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche...avidsonmc/945#
You can cut and splice between signal housing and switch assembly, but it will never appear stock unless you spend $600 dollars and probably 3-4 hours labor to replace a front signal
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From: Honah Lee
It's a 16FXDF and according to that diagram I am correct. In order to replace a front signal housing, you need to purchase housing, housing socket, handlebar entire switch assembly, and wiring harness all the way down to under tank for each side if you want the bike to look factory.
You can cut and splice between signal housing and switch assembly, but it will never appear stock unless you spend $600 dollars and probably 3-4 hours labor to replace a front signal
You can cut and splice between signal housing and switch assembly, but it will never appear stock unless you spend $600 dollars and probably 3-4 hours labor to replace a front signal
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I have a 2017 Fat Bob and the assembly he is referring to is 27/31. The turn signal wiring doesn't go back down the handlebar into the backbone of the bike like older Dynas. It terminates at a little control board housed right in the switch housing. I can see where he is coming from because I added Hogwerks LED front turn signals on mine and it was a bear to solder it all in with what Harley gives you to work with. I'll try to post up some pictures later.
Last edited by Jaystn62; May 6, 2023 at 10:08 AM.
#1 I am not a Harley Tech.
Any wire can be connected and soldered if you are good enough. Factory Pins and terminals are available, if you wish to replaced complete wires, proper gage and color. or reuse wire if not damaged and just do terminations.
Yes if you don't have ability to do complete wire and termination replacement, then the entire harness is the only way to get the OEM look, if that is important to you.
#2 that is why some repairs are so expensive. If you're not good at clean soldering and don't do lots of wiring, pins, terminals, and or have the proper tools, the original harness would cost less.
Any wire can be connected and soldered if you are good enough. Factory Pins and terminals are available, if you wish to replaced complete wires, proper gage and color. or reuse wire if not damaged and just do terminations.
Yes if you don't have ability to do complete wire and termination replacement, then the entire harness is the only way to get the OEM look, if that is important to you.
#2 that is why some repairs are so expensive. If you're not good at clean soldering and don't do lots of wiring, pins, terminals, and or have the proper tools, the original harness would cost less.
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#1 I am not a Harley Tech.
Any wire can be connected and soldered if you are good enough. Factory Pins and terminals are available, if you wish to replaced complete wires, proper gage and color. or reuse wire if not damaged and just do terminations.
Yes if you don't have ability to do complete wire and termination replacement, then the entire harness is the only way to get the OEM look, if that is important to you.
#2 that is why some repairs are so expensive. If you good at a clean solder and don't do lots of wiring the pins, terminals, and proper tools cost more than the original harness.
Any wire can be connected and soldered if you are good enough. Factory Pins and terminals are available, if you wish to replaced complete wires, proper gage and color. or reuse wire if not damaged and just do terminations.
Yes if you don't have ability to do complete wire and termination replacement, then the entire harness is the only way to get the OEM look, if that is important to you.
#2 that is why some repairs are so expensive. If you good at a clean solder and don't do lots of wiring the pins, terminals, and proper tools cost more than the original harness.
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From: Honah Lee
#1 I am not a Harley Tech.
Any wire can be connected and soldered if you are good enough. Factory Pins and terminals are available, if you wish to replaced complete wires, proper gage and color. or reuse wire if not damaged and just do terminations.
Yes if you don't have ability to do complete wire and termination replacement, then the entire harness is the only way to get the OEM look, if that is important to you.
#2 that is why some repairs are so expensive. If you're not good at clean soldering and don't do lots of wiring, pins, terminals, and or have the proper tools, the original harness would cost less.
Any wire can be connected and soldered if you are good enough. Factory Pins and terminals are available, if you wish to replaced complete wires, proper gage and color. or reuse wire if not damaged and just do terminations.
Yes if you don't have ability to do complete wire and termination replacement, then the entire harness is the only way to get the OEM look, if that is important to you.
#2 that is why some repairs are so expensive. If you're not good at clean soldering and don't do lots of wiring, pins, terminals, and or have the proper tools, the original harness would cost less.
I would stagger my straight wound connections so they are skinny. Then I would solder them . Heat the short shrink on one. Black RTV the ends Slide the long piece like and OEM cable protector . Hit it with heat and seal same as others .
Now that's just a thought . May if other cables had a protector, get some of that and just solder, short shrink and seal both with RTV
Now I am good at soldering and wiring having replaced that old stile brake switch in the clamshell . A $10 part . New one is the whole $200 switch. However, that's cheaper then a $10 one if you are depending on a service department.
Last edited by Jackie Paper; May 6, 2023 at 01:12 PM.
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Sorry folks, I had to work a 16 hour shift and been catching up on sleep.
The wiring for the signal housing terminates in the switch, but it is moulded in, you do not even see the soldered connection points.
I did snip and solder the wires between the housing and switch, but there is a custom moulded shrink that grommets into both housings, there is no way to make this look factory again. I did all this because of powdercoater if anyone really needed clarity.
I was just taken back that day someone knocked over a bike in a driveway and broke a signal off, it would literally probably be $1000+ to have the dealership replace.
There is no way to have the bike appear factory again without doing so say for resale purposes
The wiring for the signal housing terminates in the switch, but it is moulded in, you do not even see the soldered connection points.
I did snip and solder the wires between the housing and switch, but there is a custom moulded shrink that grommets into both housings, there is no way to make this look factory again. I did all this because of powdercoater if anyone really needed clarity.
I was just taken back that day someone knocked over a bike in a driveway and broke a signal off, it would literally probably be $1000+ to have the dealership replace.
There is no way to have the bike appear factory again without doing so say for resale purposes