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Old Oct 4, 2023 | 02:48 PM
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Hi, I own a Dyna superglide FXD 2002 which issue is weird. When hot, after a couple of miles, the engine stalls. It will restart with difficulty if it does.
If I let the bike cool down for 8 hours, it will start easily. When it happens, there's no spark s at the plugs.
here's what I replaced: plugs, cables, ignition coil, crank sensor, ignition module, battery.
A brand new Dynatek module (adjustable advance and rpm) just won't work on my motorcycle, whatever the advance I select.
The carb is fine, the gas tank cap is vented.
IT is the first summer it happens, after 10 years of running good.
intermittent electrical issues are just a hassle (to remain.polite)
 
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Old Oct 4, 2023 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Colas

Hi, I own a Dyna superglide FXD 2002 which issue is weird. When hot, after a couple of miles, the engine stalls. It will restart with difficulty if it does.
If I let the bike cool down for 8 hours, it will start easily. When it happens, there's no spark s at the plugs.
here's what I replaced: plugs, cables, ignition coil, crank sensor, ignition module, battery.
A brand new Dynatek module (adjustable advance and rpm) just won't work on my motorcycle, whatever the advance I select.
The carb is fine, the gas tank cap is vented.
IT is the first summer it happens, after 10 years of running good.
intermittent electrical issues are just a hassle (to remain.polite)
Are you positive you have no spark when the condition presents itself?

Otherwise, it could be the MAP sensor....

https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...8c76d62381aa/y

I'd check the MAP sensor for good wiring/connection and/or a leak at the MAP sensor seal... There is a way to test the sensor, but I forget how, and it can be problematic if it is an intermittent problem.

Some electrical sensors will have intermittent issues, when they get hot, prior to failure..

https://cv-performance.com/cv-perfor...nd-replacement
 

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Old Oct 4, 2023 | 06:34 PM
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This post would get more replies in the Tech/Mechanical section under the Engine/Mechanical topics.

First thing that comes to mind is the MCB; main circuit breaker. IIRC, the early models were equipped with a 40A CB which was upgraded to a 50A in later models; I forget which years. The CB heats up and will shut the bike down; wait a while for cool down and she will start up again. Not saying that's your problem but worth checking out.

I don't know why the Dyantek igniton won't work; doesn't sound right. I ran a Daytona Twin Tec on my 02 FLHT with no issues.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2023 | 08:10 PM
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Gee I was lucky today, went for a ride in the neighbourhood and luckyly the engine went dead in front of my garage (50 feet max). I checked all voltages and saw that the middle pin of the harness to the ignition coil measured only 1.9V to gnd. The wire to the middle pin of the coil primary comes from the kill switch, which supply the 12V to the coil, when the switch is on. For a reason that I will discover tomorrow, this.wire has a loose connection somewhere on it's return.path. I ran a new wire from the battery straight to the coil.
Engine started right away.
I spent one thou in different parts to clear the issue.
It would have cost me easily the same in a garage, just for labour. Anyway, now I know my bike a bit more....hey hey.
THANKS for your replies.
Colas, Montreal.


 
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Old Oct 4, 2023 | 09:49 PM
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First thing that comes to mind is the MCB; main circuit breaker. IIRC, the early models were equipped with a 40A CB which was upgraded to a 50A in later models; I forget which years. s.
Sounds like it is turning over, so I am guessing not this. I did replace my 20 year old breaker, cause it was 20 years old.

I would follow the pins. Maybe when installing new parts, it got misaligned. This happened to me when replacing CPK.
 
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Originally Posted by Colas
Gee I was lucky today, went for a ride in the neighbourhood and luckyly the engine went dead in front of my garage (50 feet max). I checked all voltages and saw that the middle pin of the harness to the ignition coil measured only 1.9V to gnd. The wire to the middle pin of the coil primary comes from the kill switch, which supply the 12V to the coil, when the switch is on. For a reason that I will discover tomorrow, this.wire has a loose connection somewhere on it's return.path. I ran a new wire from the battery straight to the coil.
Engine started right away.
I spent one thou in different parts to clear the issue.
It would have cost me easily the same in a garage, just for labour. Anyway, now I know my bike a bit more....hey hey.
THANKS for your replies.
Colas, Montreal.
Excellent job with your diagnostics....!

I find it best to actually diagnose the problem and know it's fixed, than to guess, throw parts at a problem, and hope it's fixed...

You've just become your own best mechanic...

Enjoy the bike....
 

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Old Oct 5, 2023 | 10:21 AM
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Yep you're right about the parts. An intermittent electrical issue is hard to diagnose and when the problem appears, one has to rush to have access to tools and used parts trying to find the cause of it,
screening Internet and shop manual b4 the problem disappears again...

thanks for your comment

Colas
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