pipes and program
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hi all im new to this so please bear with me.tommorow im picking up my new street bob {denim black}and was wondering if i had to wait till my first scheduled maintanance before i change pipes.im considering v&h big radius pipes,also wanted to know how do i figure out what program would need to get everything up to snuff.i know a carbureted bike would need a jet kit but unsure about fuel injection.any help would be appreciated.im new to harleys,i traded my honda for a harley,my family says thats the best decision i evermade.thanks in advance.
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RE: pipes and program
Well here is my opinion. I chose to ride it for awhile before switching out the pipes and the stage 1 kit.
I did this to help the motor seat better, but many say not to worry about it and go for it from the beginning. Its a personnal preference choice really.
Vance and Hines is a very popular exhaust on the boards.. I have the big shot staggards, I like them.
If I could do anything different and steer you in the right direction I would say get a power commander or something of the like to deal with the fuel injection.
Good luck and congrats.
All of these people will be glad to assist you, also you may want to use the search button on the top of the page to find some the answers you maybe looking for.
I did this to help the motor seat better, but many say not to worry about it and go for it from the beginning. Its a personnal preference choice really.
Vance and Hines is a very popular exhaust on the boards.. I have the big shot staggards, I like them.
If I could do anything different and steer you in the right direction I would say get a power commander or something of the like to deal with the fuel injection.
Good luck and congrats.
All of these people will be glad to assist you, also you may want to use the search button on the top of the page to find some the answers you maybe looking for.
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I was in the same boat just 3 days ago; should I do this before the 1000 mile service? Yesterday I had the dealer do stage 1 with Screamin's eagle II's, the air filter kit and stage I download before I took deliver later in the afternoon just yesterday. Bike was at 11 miles when I picked it up.
The reason? Having the sound and performance right there from day one and minimizing downtime. A few buddies of mine convinced me of this
Now the talk of the factory stage 1 download being a bit on the lean side is certainly true and the degree of leanness depends on your individual bike. Mine is just very slightly lean but with no ill effects of popping on deceleration, surging or flat spots. If it were a carb bike, I'd probably put one shim on the needle and be done. With fuel injection, a DFO or power commander on top of the factory stage one flash would would dial it in the rest of the way. The jury is still out on this for my bike since I'm not getting flat spots or lean running symptons but I still might do it on a dyno with an aftermarket device.
DO IT!
The reason? Having the sound and performance right there from day one and minimizing downtime. A few buddies of mine convinced me of this
Now the talk of the factory stage 1 download being a bit on the lean side is certainly true and the degree of leanness depends on your individual bike. Mine is just very slightly lean but with no ill effects of popping on deceleration, surging or flat spots. If it were a carb bike, I'd probably put one shim on the needle and be done. With fuel injection, a DFO or power commander on top of the factory stage one flash would would dial it in the rest of the way. The jury is still out on this for my bike since I'm not getting flat spots or lean running symptons but I still might do it on a dyno with an aftermarket device.
DO IT!
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I'm with Fl_99, I had my pipes and download done before I took delivery. I just couldn't stand it that quiet I only have 16 miles on the bike, and can't ride right now due to weather. 
I'd say get it done now, it is nice to have it there right from the start.
TT
I only have 16 miles on the bike, and can't ride right now due to weather. I'd say get it done now, it is nice to have it there right from the start. TT
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ok cool.with that out of the way has anyone put the v&h big radius pipes on their bikes i would love to hear a sound clip if available.also will the download be all that you need with v&h pipes and k&n filter?any help would be appreciated
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well with the screaming eagle ll slash downs & k & n filter and the power commander installed it work great for me no problems anywhere in the throttling or exhaust. my contact with PC instructed me to just install with the map it came with and it should be good to go he was absolutely correct and the added performance in great. my mileage has gotten better also. oh my street bob has ,was and is stock ecm flash.
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I'm in the same boat. I have almost 400 miles now ( thank you California ) & have the scratch to order my pipes & SE A/C. I'm gonna wait a little longer, but the washing machine sound from the pipes is getting to me. Time for the noise. I'm just going with SEII slips ( baloney ) & the SE A/C & download. The bike has plenty of power for me now, & not really looking for a whole lot more.
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hi all im new to this so please bear with me.tommorow im picking up my new street bob {denim black}and was wondering if i had to wait till my first scheduled maintanance before i change pipes.im considering v&h big radius pipes,also wanted to know how do i figure out what program would need to get everything up to snuff.i know a carbureted bike would need a jet kit but unsure about fuel injection.any help would be appreciated.im new to harleys,i traded my honda for a harley,my family says thats the best decision i evermade.thanks in advance.
hi all im new to this so please bear with me.tommorow im picking up my new street bob {denim black}and was wondering if i had to wait till my first scheduled maintanance before i change pipes.im considering v&h big radius pipes,also wanted to know how do i figure out what program would need to get everything up to snuff.i know a carbureted bike would need a jet kit but unsure about fuel injection.any help would be appreciated.im new to harleys,i traded my honda for a harley,my family says thats the best decision i evermade.thanks in advance.
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