Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
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RE: Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
My pipes state very plainly on the bottom "For off road use only"
So I know, that should I have the unfortunate encounter with Johnny Ticket-Master.............I could get a ticket. I won't whine either, as I KNOW the pipes are "For Off Road Use Only"
I think it has something to do with "Accepting Responsibility" for ones actions, but I could be wrong.
So I know, that should I have the unfortunate encounter with Johnny Ticket-Master.............I could get a ticket. I won't whine either, as I KNOW the pipes are "For Off Road Use Only"
I think it has something to do with "Accepting Responsibility" for ones actions, but I could be wrong.
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From: On the road to nowhere, UK
RE: Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
I have to say, you're all correct really..
Firstly, there is a feeling that we all like a 'better' sound than stock. This is clearly subjective & an individual thing, but two points here - loud equals bad news for both your own & others hearing. It certainly DOESN'T save lives.
Secondly, evidence of a breach of the law must be proved in court. If the law states no buggering about with the pipes, the lawman can describe or photo that. If it's simply noise, they have (over here anyways) to prove it by a third party test. In the UK, that's via VOSA (Vehicle Operator Services Agency) These dudes simply slap a ticket on you & your bike at the roadside & you get the bike towed away at your expense. The Police are pussycats in comparison!!
If you know you're stretching the rules, then really you can't complain if you get ticketed can you? Like speeding, it's just one of dem tings..
The Police have to be consistent in their application of the law, which is a seperate thing entirely & it's a sad man that relies on that in court.
Brum, brummm...
Firstly, there is a feeling that we all like a 'better' sound than stock. This is clearly subjective & an individual thing, but two points here - loud equals bad news for both your own & others hearing. It certainly DOESN'T save lives.
Secondly, evidence of a breach of the law must be proved in court. If the law states no buggering about with the pipes, the lawman can describe or photo that. If it's simply noise, they have (over here anyways) to prove it by a third party test. In the UK, that's via VOSA (Vehicle Operator Services Agency) These dudes simply slap a ticket on you & your bike at the roadside & you get the bike towed away at your expense. The Police are pussycats in comparison!!
If you know you're stretching the rules, then really you can't complain if you get ticketed can you? Like speeding, it's just one of dem tings..
The Police have to be consistent in their application of the law, which is a seperate thing entirely & it's a sad man that relies on that in court.
Brum, brummm...
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From: NC
RE: Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
ORIGINAL: SilentWarrior
Fight it... the Officer doesnt have a case without a decibel meter. It just sounded loud to me your honor...What BS !!!
ORIGINAL: Topspin
It was based on me idling past him at 5 mph. No decible test.
It was based on me idling past him at 5 mph. No decible test.
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From: Tucson, Az
RE: Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
ORIGINAL: Topspin
In case you guys were wondering how loud they are... I got another ticket today in the town of Ocean Ridge (FL).
I was idling when I was pulled over.
My last ticket there was without them (QB).
This is starting to **** me off.
In case you guys were wondering how loud they are... I got another ticket today in the town of Ocean Ridge (FL).
I was idling when I was pulled over.
My last ticket there was without them (QB).
This is starting to **** me off.
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From: Florida
RE: Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
Unless there's a specific decibel level written into the noise ordinance you're not going to get very far fighting this. When it's a cops opinion against a civilians in court you know who's gonna win out. Since I live and Florida and I'm pretty sure there isn't a state law about loud pipes I'm gonna assume this is just a local ordinance, which means the local judge is gonna be behind it even more. I'd say you rode past a cop who was having a bad day and he took it out on you.
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From: Upstate NY
RE: Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
ElectraRick, where in Upstate NY are you? I live upstate near Albany and was considering changing out the pipes but if they consistently bust your a$$ I'm not sure if I want to take the chance. I live in a small town and some of the Leo's herethe "super cop" attitude.
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RE: Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
ORIGINAL: sleepman54
...Unless there's a specific decibel level written into the noise ordinance you're not going to get very far fighting this. When it's a cops opinion against a civilians in court you know who's gonna win out. Since I live and Florida and I'm pretty sure there isn't a state law about loud pipes I'm gonna assume this is just a local ordinance...
...Unless there's a specific decibel level written into the noise ordinance you're not going to get very far fighting this. When it's a cops opinion against a civilians in court you know who's gonna win out. Since I live and Florida and I'm pretty sure there isn't a state law about loud pipes I'm gonna assume this is just a local ordinance...
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From: Palm Beach
RE: Quiet Baffles = Ticket for loud pipes
ORIGINAL: wallyn
That is why I kept my original Harley Quiet Pipes. I can swap out if I ever get a fix it ticket. Only worth $25 on Ebay anyway.
That is why I kept my original Harley Quiet Pipes. I can swap out if I ever get a fix it ticket. Only worth $25 on Ebay anyway.
Anyway, I was riding on a scenic beach road when ticketed. I was going 5 mph. I am not an azzhole (revving) when riding. Everytime a bike went by (they all had aftermarket pipes) the officer said "see, you saved him a ticket." I'm guessing 20 bikes went by during my ordeal.
I will be fighting this ticket. I have been in the car biz for 27 years and I'm a wolverine when cornered.