FuelPak vs. Power Commander - My observations
Road Warrior
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RE: FuelPak vs. Power Commander - My observations
Good info.
This debate seems to go on and on, but in fact it seems to be a rare occurrence that someone has tried both on the same motorcycle. Most threads are filled with blind opinions that help justify purchases.
Glad I walked into a deal on ebay for a new PCIII and saved myself $50 over the cost of a new FuelPak. That $50 paid for ........ just about nothing compared to the total cost of upgrade expenditures!
This debate seems to go on and on, but in fact it seems to be a rare occurrence that someone has tried both on the same motorcycle. Most threads are filled with blind opinions that help justify purchases.
Glad I walked into a deal on ebay for a new PCIII and saved myself $50 over the cost of a new FuelPak. That $50 paid for ........ just about nothing compared to the total cost of upgrade expenditures!
Road Master
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From: The Left Coast
RE: FuelPak vs. Power Commander - My observations
ORIGINAL: 2007fxdc
fuelpak or saying it's better. But, one shouldn't read this thread and just dismiss the fuelpak.... But, it's better than trying to run a stage 1 with a stock ECM or a MoCo remap, IMO.
ORIGINAL: VenturaChop
i love my fuel pak man i sht runs great
i love my fuel pak man i sht runs great
If/when I change it'll be for the T-max (expensive).
Cruiser
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From: south coast nsw Australia
RE: FuelPak vs. Power Commander - My observations
I love my fuelpak also, i used to have a SERF so it's a lot better than it, my bike runs smooth, cool and very fast, when I give it a handful from 2nd to3rd the front end wants to lift off the ground, I do get a little bit of popping on decel at very low rpm and if I dont close the throttle off fully when changing gearsI get a crackle somtimes but the techo at Vance and Hines says that normal.
The main reason I didn't get the PCIII was that I didn't want to stuff around with maps/laptops ect ect, I dont intend to change anything else performance wise.
I repect what Trotter has said though, he is very knowledgable.
The main reason I didn't get the PCIII was that I didn't want to stuff around with maps/laptops ect ect, I dont intend to change anything else performance wise.
I repect what Trotter has said though, he is very knowledgable.
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RE: FuelPak vs. Power Commander - My observations
ORIGINAL: AdrianVall
Hey all,
In december, I had changed up my fuel system and pipes and decided to go with the FuelPak instead of the PCIII to save a little bit of $$$. Trotter had strongly suggested AGAINST using the FuelPak, but of course to my damned stubborness, I did otherwise and bought the FuelPak.
Now I see why he suggested against it. I just recently bought my PCIII from FuelMoto with a map loaded already from Jaime. And let me tell ya............ WHAT A DIFFERENCE!
With the FuelPak, my bike would overheat like crazy in slow traffic, and idle very low when overheated. It didn't run very good at all either when it heated up like this.. With the PCIII, it gave my Big Radius pipes a whole different sound, it doesn't overheat nearly as bad then with the FuelPak, and it runs soooooooooooooooo SMOOTH! I had gotten all kinds of backfiring with the FuelPak, with every trip including like 30-40+ shots of fire out my exhaust, and with the PCIII, I've gotten maybe 2-3 backfires with over 500 miles put on it already. Its just amazing how much of a difference these two items have showed.
Now don't get me wrong, the FuelPak isn't all that bad, its just that the PCIII is SO much better that I wish I had listen to Trotter and didn't even bother looking at the FuelPak.
Now, this is with my bike not even Dyno tuned yet, so I can imagine its going to get better once done.
But, I just wanted to let you all know this in case you were thinking between the two. Sorry for not listening to you before Trotter!
Cheers,
Adrian
Hey all,
In december, I had changed up my fuel system and pipes and decided to go with the FuelPak instead of the PCIII to save a little bit of $$$. Trotter had strongly suggested AGAINST using the FuelPak, but of course to my damned stubborness, I did otherwise and bought the FuelPak.
Now I see why he suggested against it. I just recently bought my PCIII from FuelMoto with a map loaded already from Jaime. And let me tell ya............ WHAT A DIFFERENCE!
With the FuelPak, my bike would overheat like crazy in slow traffic, and idle very low when overheated. It didn't run very good at all either when it heated up like this.. With the PCIII, it gave my Big Radius pipes a whole different sound, it doesn't overheat nearly as bad then with the FuelPak, and it runs soooooooooooooooo SMOOTH! I had gotten all kinds of backfiring with the FuelPak, with every trip including like 30-40+ shots of fire out my exhaust, and with the PCIII, I've gotten maybe 2-3 backfires with over 500 miles put on it already. Its just amazing how much of a difference these two items have showed.
Now don't get me wrong, the FuelPak isn't all that bad, its just that the PCIII is SO much better that I wish I had listen to Trotter and didn't even bother looking at the FuelPak.
Now, this is with my bike not even Dyno tuned yet, so I can imagine its going to get better once done.
But, I just wanted to let you all know this in case you were thinking between the two. Sorry for not listening to you before Trotter!
Cheers,
Adrian
Tourer
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From: Underworld, PA
RE: FuelPak vs. Power Commander - My observations
ORIGINAL: labfreak
One shouldn't read this thread and dismiss the MoCo remap either...mine runs strong and no problems...
One shouldn't read this thread and dismiss the MoCo remap either...mine runs strong and no problems...
Road Master
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From: Irving-Texas
RE: FuelPak vs. Power Commander - My observations
There's more 'n one way to skin a cat so to speak. I choose PCIII for a variety of reasons, cost was important. I paid $395 for PCIII and BS A/C from Fuel Moto, with stock exhaust minus baffles packing and a hole punched in baffles it made a dramatic VERY noticeable difference and drastically lowered the operating temp. Then I got a used pr of V & H slip on’s and had a new map sent. Bob now runs liked a striped *** ape. Changing/updating the map was a breeze, a trained chimpanzee could do it. All told I have about $650 bucks tied up in it as opposed to the cost of TMAX or SERT, didn’t have it tuned, ( may sometime in the future but really don’t see the need at this point).
I’m not about to diss any of the other EFI tuning products, this is the only one I have tried but I give it a full thumbs up. If what you are using works for you then by all means stick with it till it doesn’t.
There are a few issues with the "non HD" units. If My ECU takes a ****, being hooked to the PCIII I pretty well figure it’s on me, but I’m willing to take that chance with all the PCIII out there catastrophic failure is rare or there would be info on that all over the forums.
The PCIII will turn your red line up to 6200 as well which is nice on a 96er.
Main advantage is the cooler running, I sat for almost 15 min at HD waiting on service the other day at 80 degrees idle and didn’t overheat. The heat issue was my main concern, the performance boost while I love it is just icing on the cake.
I’m not about to diss any of the other EFI tuning products, this is the only one I have tried but I give it a full thumbs up. If what you are using works for you then by all means stick with it till it doesn’t.
There are a few issues with the "non HD" units. If My ECU takes a ****, being hooked to the PCIII I pretty well figure it’s on me, but I’m willing to take that chance with all the PCIII out there catastrophic failure is rare or there would be info on that all over the forums.
The PCIII will turn your red line up to 6200 as well which is nice on a 96er.
Main advantage is the cooler running, I sat for almost 15 min at HD waiting on service the other day at 80 degrees idle and didn’t overheat. The heat issue was my main concern, the performance boost while I love it is just icing on the cake.
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