Dyna Glide Models Super Glide, Super Glide Sport, Super Glide Custom, Dyna Glide Convertible, Super Glide T-Sport, Dyna Glide Police, Dyna Switchback, Low Rider, Street Bob, Fat Bob and Wide Glide.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Prototype

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 17, 2009 | 03:26 PM
  #11  
MNrider's Avatar
MNrider
Tourer
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
From: Twin Cities
Default

Be very careful...you don't want to end up like that dude that invented the opti-grab. LOL.
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2009 | 03:58 PM
  #12  
jackyl's Avatar
jackyl
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,051
Likes: 8
From: Detroit Michigan
Default

get a (patent pending) alot cheaper and you have 12 months to decide if you want to go through the hassel and expense to fully patent your idea. it allows the inventor 12 months trail to see if there invention will work or will sell. it is the same as a patent just the trail version if you want to say it in simpler terms. my full patent costed me $5,230.00. for my tour pak mount, but the (patent pending) is like $900.00/$1,100.00, but if you decide to put a full patent on the idea (within the 12 months) then the 900.00 will go towards your total cost of the full patent. if you wait til it expires then the cost of the patent pending will not go towards the total cost and you have a chance of someone else patenting it. you will need to get full detailed blueprints, picture, and a brief explination of the product. but before you go through all the time and money, just remember someone can change just 15% !!!!! of your idea and it will not infringe on your patent. that is the cooperate world of BS for you, because if a large compnay likes it ,they will re-invent it with minor changes and sell it also. the best way to stop that is sell it for a low but reasonible price and they will look at it and say nah its not worth it to make just this X amount of money, but if it is worth it to them then they will scam you. i have been a prototype fabricator for the Big 3 for 19 years ask me how many patents i have seen stepped on, almost every part on a vechile/Harley/TV/DVD/Computer/everything in this world is a stepped on version of the original patented product, its called aftermarketing. jackyl

if you mail it to yourself and dont open it like the member said to do, it will do nothing for you but remind you that you should of got a patent while someone stole your idea and patent it and making money on it. just call a patent lawyer and ask him and he will tell you the same. it is like first come first serve, no second place.
 

Last edited by jackyl; Apr 17, 2009 at 04:07 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2009 | 08:06 PM
  #13  
Dawg Rider's Avatar
Dawg Rider
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,443
Likes: 3
From: Sasser, GA
Default

Unless it's really innovative, there's a good chance that a patent might not even protect you much. Companies rip off inventors all the time by making small changes. There have been some horror stories of companies (I think Pottery Barn is a common culprit, but I could be remembering wrong) blatantly stealing someone's idea knowing that most small-timers can't afford the cost or time involved in the legal fight. In one case I read about, the company even ripped off the poor guy's packaging and art. No shame anymore....These examples I'm thinking of aren't motorcycle related, but the same thing applies. It's so bad I abandoned an idea that I still think would go huge in my industry because I know that the big players would just price me out of the market if it ever became big enough for them to notice.

I guess my point is, I think you'd do just as well to do it on a small scale unless it's something super revolutionary. JMO, of course.
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2009 | 08:32 PM
  #14  
roadhouse's Avatar
roadhouse
Tourer
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
From: upstate ny
Default

i think u just heard everything u needed to in the last 2 posts.
 
Reply
Old Apr 17, 2009 | 09:10 PM
  #15  
cpl215's Avatar
cpl215
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 403
Likes: 0
From: The beautiful NW GA mountains.
Default

Originally Posted by MNrider
Be very careful...you don't want to end up like that dude that invented the opti-grab. LOL.

LMFAO! Classic movie.
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 03:26 AM
  #16  
benwiggin2's Avatar
benwiggin2
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,197
Likes: 0
From: The wild, wild, west.
Default

wtf is it?
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 04:27 AM
  #17  
PigInaBlanket's Avatar
PigInaBlanket
Club Member
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 10,815
Likes: 16
From: Virginia
Default

Originally Posted by MNrider
Be very careful...you don't want to end up like that dude that invented the opti-grab. LOL.
HE HATES THESE CANS!

http://cellfish.com/video/99777/HE-HATES-THESE-CANS
 

Last edited by PigInaBlanket; Apr 18, 2009 at 04:32 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 06:30 AM
  #18  
SC-Longhair's Avatar
SC-Longhair
Club Member
15 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,483
Likes: 39
From: Passaic County, NJ
Default

Check out the patent office online. I believe you can even file a patent online.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

The Best and Worst Harley-Davidson Moves of 2025

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 06:49 AM
  #19  
StreetBobJD's Avatar
StreetBobJD
Intermediate
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
Default

Some pretty discouraging answers, why bother getting out of bed in the morning?
Jackyl made some very good (factual) points, it isn't easy - but you can be successful.
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 06:56 AM
  #20  
Dawg Rider's Avatar
Dawg Rider
Road Warrior
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,443
Likes: 3
From: Sasser, GA
Default

Originally Posted by StreetBobJD
Some pretty discouraging answers, why bother getting out of bed in the morning?
Jackyl made some very good (factual) points, it isn't easy - but you can be successful.
I wasn't trying to discourage anybody...just pointing out that going the patent route might not be worth the trouble and expense. IOW-you don't need a patent to build and sell something, and even having a patent won't necessarily keep the wolves away. But they obviously serve a purpose, and in some cases that's the way to go.
 

Last edited by Dawg Rider; Apr 18, 2009 at 06:59 AM.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:09 AM.

story-0
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-3
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-4
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE
story-8
Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

Slideshow: Graeme Billington's left-hand-drive Shovelhead is as much about problem-solving as it is about classic Harley form.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-30 11:27:08


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best and Worst Harley-Davidson Moves of 2025

Slideshow: A clear-eyed look at what actually worked for Harley this year, and what quietly undermined its progress.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-29 17:10:48


VIEW MORE